Initial Review - Sterling Arms International (SAI) R9 Mk1, 9mm PCC
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Modified to what? An upgraded gen 2?
Does this modification mean it comes off the Verboten list? If so great but it shows the absolute ridiculousness of it all.
I also question how a firearm that cannot be transported can be shipped to the vendor in the first place (somewhat of a catch 22).
I do kinda recall that you can arrange to have a package picked up from home and shipped (technically getting around this stupid rule).
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To summarize, Sterling had requested the prohibited status of the R9 be overturned, as it is not an AR180 variant. In the meantime, Sterling had been selling the Max IX variant of the R9 in the States, but because they were sold as pistols, they wouldn't be able to sell them in Canada, even after convincing the RCMP the R9 was not an AR180 variant. The RCMP said if they changed the receiver so it would not interface with the pistol, then they could sell it as a rifle, hence the new Sterling RC9 rifle. The internals are the same, Sterling will for the cost of shipping back and forth allow R9 owners to send their receivers, sans butt stock and optics, to Sterling to have the internals moved to the NR RC9 receiver. I know JR has sinned against the community in the past, but perhaps him eating the cost of swapping the R9 to RC9 receivers for existing owners will provide a proper penance.
To summarize, Sterling had requested the prohibited status of the R9 be overturned, as it is not an AR180 variant. In the meantime, Sterling had been selling the Max IX variant of the R9 in the States, but because they were sold as pistols, they wouldn't be able to sell them in Canada, even after convincing the RCMP the R9 was not an AR180 variant. The RCMP said if they changed the receiver so it would not interface with the pistol, then they could sell it as a rifle, hence the new Sterling RC9 rifle. The internals are the same, Sterling will for the cost of shipping back and forth allow R9 owners to send their receivers, sans butt stock and optics, to Sterling to have the internals moved to the NR RC9 receiver. I know JR has sinned against the community in the past, but perhaps him eating the cost of swapping the R9 to RC9 receivers for existing owners will provide a proper penance.
Don't get too excited, the RCMP/SFSS said the same thing about other N/R rifles with proprietary upper & lowers whose Canadian Law comments stated that they were not variants of an AR but were reclassified to Prohibited & banned anyway.
I view this as nothing more than the RCMP/SFSS stringing JR along to re tool, produce, & sell based on a "trust us" the FRT is coming only to ban it again once JR commits his money.
JM02
I view this as nothing more than the RCMP/SFSS stringing JR along to re tool, produce, & sell based on a "trust us" the FRT is coming only to ban it again once JR commits his money.
JM02
Indeed.
I try to be a glass half full type but when it comes to Canadian firearm laws there have been no signs the RCMP / government can be trusted (quite the opposite) despite what they may say.
I recall a fine Canadian company called ATRS that were producing non variants (they had paperwork from the RCMP to prove it - widely available for all to see) and then one day suddenly the same firearms WERE variants and subsequently shadow banned.
Fool me once......
Did JR say at Taccom 2026 that the R9 MK1 is now considered a Handgun in the FRT? That's not what Armalytics says as of the latest update. It's listed as a Prohibited Rifle, AR180 variant, and affected by OIC #2.
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If its now determined to be a pistol, should really be changed to Restricted then:
Here's a review of the Max IX Pistol,, which is the short barreled, rear charging version of the original R9.
Question, if the original R9 is now a pistol by classification, could someone with a RPAL register it to use at the range as-is? And if the lower is the registered component, could they import a Mac IX upper through iRunGuns for their R9 lower?
I know most people would rather the government not know they have a previously NR R9, but registering might be useful for those who can only go to a range.
Question, if the original R9 is now a pistol by classification, could someone with a RPAL register it to use at the range as-is? And if the lower is the registered component, could they import a Mac IX upper through iRunGuns for their R9 lower?
I know most people would rather the government not know they have a previously NR R9, but registering might be useful for those who can only go to a range.
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Bill C-21 prohibites the issuance of Registration Certificates for Handguns to Individuals in most circumstances.
Thanks, I figured that was the case, but I thought the question was worth asking. So the R9 is still effectively prohibited by it not being registrable, unless the RC9 receives an NR FRT and their guts can be transferred to their new NR receivers.
Although I do not think the Han 9 uses the R9's receiver, the fact it uses MP5 magazines and it is Turkish in origin means it may come from similar roots. Do you think the simple yet inexpensive delayed blowback system from the Han 9 could be used in a delayed blowback version of the RC9 if Sterling can resume production if it gets an NR FRT entry?
So the R9 is a pistol now?
Can one assume if they have an R9 and a restricted licence for pistols, they can take their (now) prohib. pistol (R9) to the range?
It's almost like the firearms lab has this big wheel of fortune they spin when making decisions.
