LOL, If you think that tool is "fiddly" wait till you try the BS methods that will get posted in this thread.I know hornady makes a tool, but it seems fiddly
And you would be totally wrong. By your method, there is no possibility of getting within even a few thousandths of an inch. The sharpie marks on the rod will be 30+ thou wide, times two.I'm able to pretty quickly get what I feel like is an acceptably close measurement.
That your rifle is accurate, says not a thing about the accuracy of your measurements to the lands ... not a thing.and it maintains consistent sub 0.4" grouping at 300 meters
The tool has like 3 parts. What can go wrong with three parts?I bought a Hornady comparator kit as well but when started using it realized its flaws. Too many parts too many things can go wrong, as many times I measured show 0.001" more or less.
How you mean that? I don't care for dimension what numbers any longer because the L.E.Wilson seating die with micrometer will take great care of it.That your rifle is accurate, says not a thing about the accuracy of your measurements to the lands ... not a thing.
You have a measurement and you seat your bullets consistently but there is zero proof that the measurement you have is accurate or correct.
OK, both of us know how to measure with Mitutoyo calipers.The tool has like 3 parts. What can go wrong with three parts?
You found a measurement of .001" to be unacceptable?![]()
Same basic method..I use the Sinclair "Bullet Seating Depth Tool" I have tried many different methods and this one works best for me.
Comparators can be as simple as a Sinclair Comparator Nut used with a set of calipersMy biggest concern is getting set to the ogee of the bullet (without buying case comparators for each chambering), not OAL because bullet tips can be pretty fickle
Same method that I use, slightly insert your bullet of choice into a once fired, un resized case with some red Locktite on it. Chamber the dummy round. Closing the bolt on it will result in the bullet hitting the lands and being forced into the case. Leave it in the chamber for 60 minutes. Remove the dummy round…. Your result will be a dummy round that has zero jump to the lands.Red loctite the bullet into the case neck - it is simple and idiot proof and the bonded sample piece is very strong, it will stay for long time unless you start banging it with a big hammer.
When I was ready to invest into reloading I watched many videos, the L.E.Wilson tools seem to me a very solid platform, and I bought all the gauges and dies and little inline press from a single source. But I am reloading a single calibre only that was simple.
Just curious what other handloaders are doing to measure the lands on thier rifles.
I know hornady makes a tool, but it seems fiddly and I have rifles they don’t make dummy cases for.
Right now, I just seat a bullet way out and make the bullet with indelible marker, keep trying to chamber it until the bolt closes. Then remark and measure the marks. Deduct marks plus 30 thou on standard or 50 tho on magnums to start. This is also fiddly and requires pulling a bullet to prime and add the charge.
I’m thinking of using resized case, a stuck case recovery kit, drilling out the primer pocket then threading it. Seat a bullet to SAAMI spec, and walk it forward with a threaded rod (50 thou per rotation on 1/4”x20 tpi) until it touches. Place the dummy round in the press with the seating die in place and seat stem backed all the way off, run the press up to the top (no crimp set), screw the stem down until it touches, remove the dummy case and screw the stem down another 30 or 50 thou and it’s set?? Has anyone else ever tried this??
A good point - is not a "once and done" thing. But I do not know if throat / lands wear is measurable after 5 shots or 50,000 shots - most likely somewhere in between - pick an easy method, so that it can be done often.my $0.02, once you get a measurement with chosen method, do it a couple times to verify correct measurement.
I check every year to keep up with the wear and tear from use.
Get the tap at a local industrial supply store or even on Amazon and make your own modified cases. It’s really very easy to do.Just curious what other handloaders are doing to measure the lands on thier rifles.
I know hornady makes a tool, but it seems fiddly and I have rifles they don’t make dummy cases for.
Right now, I just seat a bullet way out and make the bullet with indelible marker, keep trying to chamber it until the bolt closes. Then remark and measure the marks. Deduct marks plus 30 thou on standard or 50 tho on magnums to start. This is also fiddly and requires pulling a bullet to prime and add the charge.
I’m thinking of using resized case, a stuck case recovery kit, drilling out the primer pocket then threading it. Seat a bullet to SAAMI spec, and walk it forward with a threaded rod (50 thou per rotation on 1/4”x20 tpi) until it touches. Place the dummy round in the press with the seating die in place and seat stem backed all the way off, run the press up to the top (no crimp set), screw the stem down until it touches, remove the dummy case and screw the stem down another 30 or 50 thou and it’s set?? Has anyone else ever tried this??



























