Who says precision rifle has to be expensive?

good buy

holly Sticker, the guy was really happy with his shooting and was just saying how well a box stock can shoot. Give the guy credit. Plus i am thinking that if he is shooting varmits at 100 yards, he probly not to worried about 5 shots in 1/2 group, because the little varmit won't feel the last 4 and that will be a waste. Nice shooting tho, that is a nice group for the money you paid.
 
Good shooter. The .270 Win is a heck of a calibre, and to have one that groups like that out of the box....Keep it forever.

Hakx
 
2bad4u2 said:
Trolling again are we? Either that or you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about. And just so you don't think this is some kind of Savage vs "The World" comment, then try this. Take a Stevens 200 and a Savage 12 FV in similar cartridges and compare them both.

Neither rifle adequately adapts well to situatons where it another rifle can do the job much easier than the other.

Use your head.
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Somebody has there bloomers in a bunch. Chill out dude! It was meant in jest. Did you not see the waving smiley? I'm not a Remmy hater or a Winchester hater. I just don't believe in spending more than I need to . I shoot 1/2 moa with my Savage on good days out to 500m. My AVERAGE is .9moa. Not bad for a "cheap" gun that doesn't "adapt" to one situation over the other. If I use the Choate stock that came with my gun, on a bench, 1/2 moa is common. If I use a tupperware Savage stock, with a bipod in the field for varmints, 1moa out to 300m (the farthest I can shoot in the areas that I hunt) is also common. Either way, I'm happy with my gun and obviously the originator of the thread is happy with his. In the end, personal happiness with one's own equipement is all that counts. Peace!

-Jason
 
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I bought a similar model Savage in 7 mm Mag. It comes with a Simmons scope. How accurate will that be? Should I upgrade the scope? What rifles are considered uber accurate with what scopes( Up to $4,000.oo for both) and what can they do? I also have a 30-06 Remington pump with a Bushnell(I like the firefly). Is a bolt that much more accurate? I have recently bought a ruger .204 with a Browning scope heavy barrel etc and it is uber accurate
 
2bad4u2 said:
Trolling again are we? Either that or you clearly don't have a clue what you're talking about. And just so you don't think this is some kind of Savage vs "The World" comment, then try this. Take a Stevens 200 and a Savage 12 FV in similar cartridges and compare them both.

Neither rifle adequately adapts well to situatons where it another rifle can do the job much easier than the other.

Use your head.
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compair a 600 dollar savage to a 600 dollar brown both have smoth actions though not as smoothe as some the lee enfield i looked at

the savage has a way better finish the differance is the brownings bolt doesn;t come pu as high as the savage

i was not impressed yeah brwonigns to of the line gun may be nice but i could never afford one

also if remington is better then savage then how come remington copyed savage's 10 Predator hunter with they're model 7 varmint hunter i think this is very flatering that remington stole they're idea verchualy copyed they're product concept to a T and then said no we didn't we came up with it our selfs
 
Unless you are planing to Compeat and are only planing on Hunting the packages are an amazing deal they will out preform remingtons package deal and come with the confidence of knowing that they didn't have to come up with 2 new guns cancle one and then introduce yours the year after
 
on last thing look at what your shooting and the distance your shooting at it

for arguement i will say a deer so i need to hit an 8 inch target with in 100 yards the max distance well my dads 30-06 will probly shot 1 inch at 100 yards with no problem from an unsupported standing possition

so will i be able to kill a deer at 100 yards heck i have 7 inchs of room before my round will be affected buy grouping size and not give me a cleen kill

as long as your rifle will do what you need it to do it is a precission rifle

no what you should be asking is i am doing Blah kind of shooting what accruacy should i have and what standard should it live up to do i need a rifle that can shoot MOA at 2300 yards when it's upgraded to #### ####ing wow and still costs as much as remingtions stock rifles when i am only shooting to 100 yards? i'd like to see someone try that with a stock remigton with a buget under 1 grand
 
Yes his gun shoots good, for a hunting rifle. But he is in the Precision rifle section. If I fire 3 shots off a bench or prone at 100y and get 3 individual holes, no matter how close they are, out of my rebarreled Rem 700 in .308, that is a bad group. Good is 3 shots fired, only 1 slightly inlarged bullet hole found, smack dab in the center of the bull!

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grimreeper said:
holly Sticker, the guy was really happy with his shooting and was just saying how well a box stock can shoot. Give the guy credit. Plus i am thinking that if he is shooting varmits at 100 yards, he probly not to worried about 5 shots in 1/2 group, because the little varmit won't feel the last 4 and that will be a waste. Nice shooting tho, that is a nice group for the money you paid.
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The group fired by michaelsabre is aparently enough for him to consider it a precision rifle. Lord knows how many Remington's he's owned that couldn't shoot a group like that out of the box? ;) (<----- notice the winking smiley people !!!! ) Keep up the good shooting michaelsabre. Enjoy your purchase and shoot often, regardless of who says what.

-Jason
 
could your remington do that before hand further more could it shoot moa at 2000+ yards and still costs less then a stock remington 700 when it's been custemised? stop lieing about how wonderfill remmintons are after you tweak and custemise them this is a stock gun that costs less then your fricking rarrel job on your gun with the money he saved he could put a new barral and a new stock on it and he'd still have a gun that costs less and probly shoots better the topic is not are rebarreled guns better so don't bother saying it
 
thebuckhunter said:
The group fired by michaelsabre is aparently enough for him to consider it a precision rifle. Lord knows how many Remington's he's owned that couldn't shoot a group like that out of the box? ;) (<----- notice the winking smiley people !!!! ) Keep up the good shooting michaelsabre. Enjoy your purchase and shoot often, regardless of who says what.

-Jason
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I don't know why you guys are all so negative about Remingtons. Things were going along fine then all of a sudden there was this massive increase in negative posts about Remingtons. What's going ON!!!? People still buy Remingtons. People still shoot Remingtons.:D
 
I'll be honest with you, I only have Rem.'s and honestly I have never owned one that didn't shoot .5" out of the box with only load work. I'm not saying that Rem.'s are better than any other make but I don't get the Rem. bashing. I do have an uncle that shoots Savages and Tikka's with me and we take turns beating each other's groups regularily. So in my book everyone is building rifles that shoot well but I wil agree Savage is coming around in their rifles and Remmy's are falling behind in the QA side of things but Remmy's still shoot and no one can prove otherwise. By the way, nice groups with your out of the box Savage.
 
After decades of Savage bashing by Rem owners, some Savage owners consider it fair to indicate Rem's recent shortcomings.

Yes, both companies are making very good shooting rifles. We really have Ford/Chevy debate now. Soon the Marlins will come and we can have a Rem/Mar/Sav debate.

These three brands offer accuracy that was one the terrain of custom tuned rigs. Sub MOA is not only commonplace, it is expected in out of the box rifles with minimal work and load development.

What a change from a few decades back when a 1" group was something to amaze friends and family.

Better bullets, powders, dies and brass all going to make better barrels work at their best.

The biggest weakness is still the lawyer friendly triggers in many models and the absolute horrendous inletting.

Bed the actions, free float the pipes, lighten or replace the triggers - be happy for little money spent.

A great thing indeed....

Jerry
 
Good is 3 shots fired, only 1 slightly inlarged bullet hole found, smack dab in the center of the bull!
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Very few precision shooters can do this consistently. Next step is to perform this (proportionately, of course) at longer distances. Michaelsabre is on his way.
 
That's great performance from an affordable hunting rifle. And you need to take some credit too. I found everything acceptable about my 300wm savage synthetic other than the stock. I'd shoot a decent group, put the gun down or away, and then find the gun shot to a different point of impact. At first I blamed it on a flexible foreend, but I have come to the conclusion that the action was moving around in the stock. I'd come back to the gun that had clearance between barrel and stock and find the stock touching it again. Luckily replacement stocks are cheap. I suppose I could have bedded the action, but I didn't really like the fit of the stock either. Seemed like the comb was too low for a natural sort of fit for me.
 
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