Longest rifle available?

Between the Boer and WW1 the ideal length for a bayonet and rifle was supposed to be 5 feet in order to effectively deal with a mounted attacker.
This explains the length of the 1907 (long) and the length of the Ross bayonet(shorter) although I still have no idea why the Ross bayonet has that funky nonpoint. 5 feet was considered a minimum.


The Argentine mauser is a long and beautiful rifle.

I just got a couple modern VZ bayonets in the post today. They are drastically different than the classics like the 1907s. A short 7 inch blade on a short barrelled rifle. Still the bayonet is coming back in the 21st century for keeping civilians at a distance ,prisoner transport and close combat.
 
ollie said:
Have you got a bayo for yours? I imagine they must be about 9 feet long with the pigsticker attatched, a reflection of the tactics of the time. Your rifle with bayo was to be long enough to use as a pike in close quarters, with one rank of men in front of you. They were also made that long so that the muzzles of the guys in the back row protuded past the faces of the men in the front row. Most definately longer than even an M91 by a good stretch!

Anyone have a Snider bayonet they want to sell:D
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I stumbled across one a while back after lot's of looking.
 
Unsub said:
Still the bayonet is coming back in the 21st century for keeping civilians at a distance ,prisoner transport and close combat.
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I'd very much debate that. Between rifle mounted grenade launchers, LMGs, tactical lights, laser designators, most of the time fewer than half of a modern infantry section can actually mount a bayonet on their weapon.
 
Nyles said:
I'd very much debate that. Between rifle mounted grenade launchers, LMGs, tactical lights, laser designators, most of the time fewer than half of a modern infantry section can actually mount a bayonet on their weapon.
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Remember in a riot situation an infantry normally doesn't load his gun until received order. A bayonet is very useful.
 
Nyles said:
I'd very much debate that. Between rifle mounted grenade launchers, LMGs, tactical lights, laser designators, most of the time fewer than half of a modern infantry section can actually mount a bayonet on their weapon.
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The brits carried out a bayonet charge in Basra last year!
 
michaelsabre said:
Remember in a riot situation an infantry normally doesn't load his gun until received order. A bayonet is very useful.
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True, but I've been in the Forces for two years and I've yet to meet anyone with riot control training.

The Brits may have made a bayonet charge in Basra, but those were under pretty specific circumstances. And why is it always the Brits, anyways? I've never worked with them, but from what I've heard from those that have they've very much still got the Michael Caine in Zulu mentality.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not about to stop carrying mine, but I also think it's very much not the case that the bayonet is enjoying any kind of resurgence.
 
The mosin nagant 1891 I believe is a bit longer than the 91/30. Attach a bayonet and it's probably taller than any soldier who ever carried it in battle.

I think it was so you could comfortably bayonet the enemy across no-man's land without ever leaving your trench.
 
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