Question about doubletaps performed from 8 yards

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What's the average group size/A-Zone percentage from a distance of 8 yards?

I'm trying to ascertain how much practice I need on my doubletaps. I'd say 70% were in the A-zone, with the rest really close by, but in the C-zone...

First time I try this, so let me know how/what I should practice.
 
When you refer to a double tap do you mean you line up your sights with the Azone and pull the trigger 2 times without seeing your sights for the second shot.
 
DRAGONSLAYER said:
When you refer to a double tap do you mean you line up your sights with the Azone and pull the trigger 2 times without seeing your sights for the second shot.
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Yes, aimed at the A-zone.

I still track the front sight when I perform the second shot, but we're talking about two shots in ~1/2 a second.
 
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I have seen one guy put 2 about 1 1/2" apart consistantly.
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In my defense, that guy's probably been doing it for quite some time, along with using lighter loads. Then again, I'm not particularly interested in exceptional cases either, hence why I asked the average group sizes and A-zone percentages. ;)
 
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How big is A zone? I can probably do 4-6 inches with my glock 21, but I've only fired less than 2000 rounds total, so I'm still just learning. I find the gun is really quick to get back on target, I pull the trigger the second time as soon as the front sight comes back to the sight picture (like you said, about .5 seconds). I find it's made even easier with the glock if I can work the reset properly, which I'm also getting better at.
 
For lightening 'splits' on this endeavor, the second shot of the 'double tap' is actually tripped before the front sight is visualized....
Remember...you're not shooting for groups...just trying to get two hits in the A-zone as quickly as possible.
With practice, shots fired at short distances can be done uber quickly, without getting a classic sight picture at all.
True combat shooting advocates...when engaging targets on a 'two way range'...often teach 'point shooting'..i.e. not taking the time to obtain any sight picture.....
 
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Grip and trigger control is probably the most important factor after proper aim.

Assume proper grip - with your strong hand pushing outward toward the target and your weak hand pulling inward toward you and with only the ball on the last joint of the trigger finger pulling straight back let go two shots in a consistent manner while aiming for the bottom of the A zone with the first shot and on the second you may not see the front sight align with the A zone but with practice usually the second shot will be a few inches higher but still in the A zone.

Start your double taps slow then progressively increase the speed of your double taps until you get better and better.
 
I can hit the A zone in that time pretty consistanlty from 8 yards. I prefer to call them controlled pairs instead of double taps. If I am double tapping I am not using the the sights, if I am using the sights, I am shooting for accuracy very quickly.
 
Are you talking about shooting at people?
If so, you have to assess between shots. So, a rapid millisecond double tap would be refered to as "killing".
We were trained to shoot, assess, then fire a second and even third round if the person fails to stop.
Firing two rounds into a person ( I am told) is not "defending" it is "attacking", and it is hard to show that you were defending yourself as opposed to killing the person.
It is the same with shots to the face.. they cannot be the first shots.

* but come to think of it... we practice two shots rapid fire from one meter. we slap the target with one hand, then draw and fire two rounds immediately into the center mass, with no time to assess.
So I guess its situationally dependent.
 
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I'm referring to doubletaps for the purpose of IPSC and other sport shooting, not self-defense.
 
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