you won't believe

22lr

22lr

CGN frequent flyer
Rating - 100%
33   0   0
I bought M1 carbine not long ago. Civvi repro whatever its called, collapsible stock and 30/5 round magazine, vertical foregrip.... Beautiful piece. Except it was shooting kinda 2 feet high at 50 yards. So, naturally I bought scope mount and scope. Tried sighting in today and wasn't able to hit paper at 25 yards. Then I hit it a few times. Bullets printed xactly sideways on a paper. At 25 yards thats quite a tumbling. So, good friend of mine sticks his knife blade into open action and examines the bore. Lools shiny to him, strong rifling, clean crown. Hmmm.

I had to have a look and thats when I realise - last 2 - 2.5 " something is not right. Yeah... Definitely. Rifling goes in other direction! Its all good from chamber up to about 16" and then it abruptly changes the direction of spin.

And metal color isn't exactly same last 2 inches. And - yah..- if you look close, like bringing your face right to the barrel - you can see where pieces joined together. I said to my self "fak" . And the once more. Them F words were coming right from my heart in clusters.

You guys are laughing...
 
Yes, we are, but not as hard as the people in this story.

I read this in a gun collector's magazine.

rare and poular long barrelled cap and ball revolver came up for auction. Extremely rare! Bidding goes up to astronomical heights. Smug winner is showing off his "rare". "genuine" antique piece of history, when some of the disappointed losers in the bidding war discover exactly the same thing as you just did! Someone faked the "genuine" and "rare" revolver, and the last couple of inches of the barrel twist the wrong way. Smug winner of the bidding war now not so smug, disappointed losers now pissing themselves laughing.

So don't feel so bad, I doubt you payed five figures for it, like the new owner of a "rare" revolver.:D
 
this one here.
IMG_0130.jpg

IMG_0131.jpg

IMG_0132.jpg

IMG_0133.jpg

IMG_0135.jpg


on third picture you can see where barrel is married to a little "extention".
 
Last edited:
mandarb11 said:
That is strange to say the least.....why would they have just added barrel to the last portion....to make it a non-restricted?
Click to expand...

this was done to a few M1 Carbines, usually using old .303 barrels but the gunsmiths that did it usually bored out the barrel to be oversize and basically make the last little bit a smoothbore.... to make the minimum 18.5" barrel length.

If the job is done properly it actually looks real nice... but if it is done worng well I guess you know what that looks like too.

P.S.
The CFC does not recognize a "smoothbore" extension as a "legal" way to increase barrel length, they measure the barrel length to where the rifling ends which is why you do not see much of it going on anymore.
 
trubluscrew said:
almost looks like the smith welded the extention backwards (wouldn't that change the rifling?)
Click to expand...

Nope!

Wouldn't matter which end was welded on, the rifling would still be twisting the wrong way. Pick up a barrel, and look at the rifling from both ends, if you gotta...

Cheapest fix would be to do what should have been done in the first place, and have a reamer dropped in from the muzzle end, to a depth that gets past the "wrong" rifling. Think of it as a really recessed crown! :)

You could look at Tradex's site. They may have a restricted length barrel that can be used.

Cheers
Trev
 
trevj said:
Nope!

Wouldn't matter which end was welded on, the rifling would still be twisting the wrong way. Pick up a barrel, and look at the rifling from both ends, if you gotta...

Cheapest fix would be to do what should have been done in the first place, and have a reamer dropped in from the muzzle end, to a depth that gets past the "wrong" rifling. Think of it as a really recessed crown! :)

You could look at Tradex's site. They may have a restricted length barrel that can be used.

Cheers
Trev
Click to expand...

Your right.

I stand corrected. (gotta stay out of the OTC drugs)
 
Well, what a fella might do is remove all of the rifling BEFORE the added section! Heck with that much freebore it would be kinda like a M1 Weatherby!
Next step would be to work up loads with about 180 grain bullets and a buncha Bullseye...
 
Last edited:
A barrel extension on the 18" barrel doesn't count anyway. Long ago, 1979ish, an extension was ok. Then it was decided that it had to be rifled. A hunk of .303 barrel satisfied that. The current stupidity says no extensions, period.
"...usually bored out the barrel..." A hunk of .303 barrel is over .308" ID and the bullet doesn't touch it.
Keyholing is caused by undersized bullets, an oversized/shot out barrel(that'd be my suspicion) or the velocity is too low. No lube on cast bullets will do it too. Slug the bore first(use a plastic mallet, a brass rod and a cast .30 calibre bullet, hammer the bullet through the barrel and measure it with a micrometer), then, if you have a .308" barrel, change ammo.
It's likely a Plainfield carbine. They made a stock like that as late as 1973. Fortunately, Plainfields can use any milsurp part. Not that it matters anyway. It's still restricted.
 
Just when I thought the laws were stupid enough, something else comes out of the woodwork.

Barrel extensions do not legally change the classification of a restricted to non-restricted? I guess it's somehow easier to conceal and extended barrel than one that was originally long? :confused::mad:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom