Dillon XL650 - .45ACP feed problems and lube question

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Hi All,

I have a Dillon XL650 and have had problems ever since I got it with cases getting stuck at the mouth of the feed-tube. They do have an insert for this tube, but it doesn't work with .45's.

Does anyone have a "design" for something to stick in the funnel that will make .45's feed?


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Does anyone use any of the spray case lubes with their XL650 (or other Dillons)?
I don't want to re-tumble my rounds after I'm done with them.
Are there any new spray lubes that (1) are primer safe and (2) don't need to be cleaned afterwards?

Thanks!

Sean
 
Have troubles with them feeding also just run till tube is full shut off the hopper and load till I have a couple left and fill it again out of the hopper.
When I am using non Carbide Dies I use a light shot of Hornady one shot on the cases put about 80 in an ice cream pail give them a blast and let dry for 5 minutes and put into hopper.
Ken.
 
Kreech said:
I have a Dillon XL650 and have had problems ever since I got it with cases getting stuck at the mouth of the feed-tube. They do have an insert for this tube, but it doesn't work with .45's.
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The cases are getting stuck at the top of the clear tube that runs from the case feeder to the press? Are you sure you have the tube going the right way? The top end has a bevel. Try moving the tube up and down the few millimetres that it should move.

No insert for the feeder is required for 45 ACP. If you continue to have problems give Dillon a call toll free and ask for help. They will gladly help you.

Kreech said:
Does anyone use any of the spray case lubes with their XL650 (or other Dillons)?
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The use of lube is determined by your die types not the type of press. If you are reloading a bottleneck case and full length sizing you will use a lube. If you are reloading a straight wall case with carbide dies no lube should be required but can make it run a bit easier. Some people lube the odd case and that is usually enough to make a difference. Most of the time I don't bother with any lube when reloading pistol cases.

Let us know how it goes!


Fudd
 
Hi All,

Thanks for the comments.

Yes, I use Dillon carbide dies, so I don't need lube, but I've heard that it can make the 650 run very nicely if the cases are lightly lubed. I'm only loading straight-wall pistol rounds (.45 and .38). (I lube when I make .223, or .22-250, or 6PPC, or ... on the single-stage press.)

The feeder tube is right-side up. There is a sticker saying "this side up" on mine.

The issue is with the cases getting stuck "front-to-back" in the funnel. By that I mean that the base is flat against the outside of the plastic tube, so that you can read the headstamp. Once one has fallen that way, there is just a "pileup" of brass above it, then one gets "jammed" half-way through the plate and the case feeder stops.

Long ago, I had some photos, but I'll try to remember to take a picture next time it happens (and then try to figure out how to post it here!).

Sean
 
I don't quite follow what you mean.....take a photo so we can see it. I've never had that problem with my 650 in 45acp.

I lube 1/2 of my brass and then mix in another 1/2 that isn't. It sure makes the machine run smoother.....kinda like silk!
 
OK, I think I know what you mean but I don't think I have ever had that happen. Are you sure you have the right case feeder plate installed? No extra washers that you might have put in for loading 357 Magnum, etc.?

Can you not fake it and take a picture? To learn how to post pictures here and on other sites check my post here: http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=888330&postcount=2
Skip the others as they don't know what they are doing! ;)


Fudd
 
here's an attempt to stick a picture directly into the text!

(COOL - IT WORKS!)

The case feeder plate is the correct one - "Large Pistol"

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how many piecies of brass are you putting into the case feeder? i find with 38 super about 200 or 300 is max. too many brass slows down the speed on the rotor and also piles the brass up allowing pieces to fall through that are not in the tooth. i also only run mine of slow.

i use a couple of shots of case lube on my brass since it makes it a lot easier to reseize. i do rtumble my loaded rounds to remove the residue. i think that the feeder coats the brass with "dust" which makes it harder to reseize. i am told one shot won't leave a residual on brass but i have so far only used Dillon and BDX.
 
Hi Walter,

For the past few days, I've just been putting a few handfuls in at a time. It doesn't seem to make much of a difference between 1/2 full, and a couple handfuls. I also run slow most of the time. And, I agree that if I am going to "dump" a bunch of brass into the feeder, that I want to have the feeder running and on high. Otherwise the first few might be upside down because they didn't have enough time to settle into the grooves correctly.

I am also fighting dust, which is one of the reasons why I'm considering lube.

I shoot .45, and tumble with crushed walnut shells (in a RCBS Sidewinder) that I get from the pet store. Super-cheap, but a bit dusty.

Sean
 
I see that your funnel has a flat side to it. My XL650 has a round funnel on top of the feed tube. With the new round funnel it can’t get stuck. I would call Dillon and see if this can be fixed. They have a very good lifetime no bs warranty.
 
Hi Tigrr,

Your comment made me explicitly look at a new 650 funnel over the weekend and I agree! I'll try to put some spacers inside mine to try to mimic the new style, and also call Dillon.

Thank you!
Sean
 
tigrr said:
I see that your funnel has a flat side to it. My XL650 has a round funnel on top of the feed tube. With the new round funnel it can’t get stuck. I would call Dillon and see if this can be fixed. They have a very good lifetime no bs warranty.
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+1, Mine has the rounded funnel, and I put about 300 cases in at a time, 45 ACP, and 38 special, never a feeding problem, not once, on high or low.
 
Hey Sean,
I took a look at you picture and what I have noticed is that you do not have a plastic insert that goes into the funnel, it is white and it is the peace that guides the brass into the tube. Call Dillon and they will send you one.
As for the lubing the brass, let me just say this..some time ago I ran out of one shot and I refused to reload until i got more..lubing the cases make reloading a breeze. Only my 2c..if you need any help give me a call...I have been reloading for 20 years.

Josko
 
I just bought a squirt bottle of the Dillon Spray Lube.

As long as I'm careful with how much I'm putting on (put a bunch in a plastic container, spray very lightly, mix them up, repeat), do I have to tumble the parts clean after I reload?

Sean
 
I lube my cases by putting them on a cookie sheet laying down, spray, dump in a baggie, shake and dump them into the hopper till there is 400-600 in the hopper. After reloading I have an old sweat shirt that I dump the rounds in and rub them between the two layers and pack them in cases ready to go. Never had one yet that didn't go bang.
 
Is you case feeder running on slow or fast?

I have lots of jams on fast, but rarely on slow with .45acp. I assume you have the correct large pistol disk in the feeder?
 
Double Tap Sports said:
Hey Sean,
I took a look at you picture and what I have noticed is that you do not have a plastic insert that goes into the funnel, it is white and it is the peace that guides the brass into the tube. Call Dillon and they will send you one.
As for the lubing the brass, let me just say this..some time ago I ran out of one shot and I refused to reload until i got more..lubing the cases make reloading a breeze. Only my 2c..if you need any help give me a call...I have been reloading for 20 years.

Josko
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Josko,
Do you use a similar spray, shake, reload, wipe process for lubing your brass?

Hi All,
Here is a picture of my plastic insert. This DOES NOT work with .45's on my press. They jam 100% of the time. The case doesn't fall fast enough and the case-feeder-disk jams with the case half in the white plastic. Even on slow speed.

I am using the large pistol disk (it's the only one I have). It works just fine for .38's.

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Sean
 
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