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cycbb486 said:
forgot to mention that if you build the lighter gun you would then be able to shoot it in all other classes as well. You would only have one gun to worry about for tuning.

Calvin
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Fair enough. The thought had occurred, actually. It very much looks to me like there are really only two classes in br shooting with the scope restriction lifted in sporter class.
 
BCFred said:
Fair enough. The thought had occurred, actually. It very much looks to me like there are really only two classes in br shooting with the scope restriction lifted in sporter class.
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There are no scope restrictions in group shooting. There is in hunter class, which is score shooting.

Should add to this for group shooting:
LV, 10.5 lb rifles
Sporter, 10.5 lb rifles greater than .224 (I think - Bill Gammon will know for sure) everyone shoots a 6 anyhow, this was from back in the day when the .224 ruled the world
HV, 13.5 lb rifles
Unlimited - almost anything goes

For score shooting (Keith can fill in the highlights if he sees this)
Hunter - 30/30 case capacity and up, 6x scopes, caliber restriction (.25 and up?)
Varmint Hunter - 30/30 case capacity and up, 6x scopes, allows smaller calibers (Keith?)
Varmint For Score - shot with rifles from the LV and HV classes
 
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The actual rule reads
Sporter Class 10.5 lb weight, larger then a .230 cal
Light Varmint Class 10.5 lb weight any cal
Heavy Varmint Class 13.5 lb any cal
There is no sense going into more depth here.
If you can only have 1 gun a 6PPC, 6BR, etc, fits all 3 classes. A .224 cal fits LV and HV. Now I am going to say something and I know this will bring all of the experts out who will disagree, but I really don't care. "ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL"! 14 lbs will outshoot 13 lbs, 13 lbs will outshoot 12 lbs, 12 lbs will outshoot 11 lbs, and on and on. A 13.5 lb rifle is easier to handle then a 10.5 and will, because it is easier, outshoot a 10.5 lb. Are you at a disavantage? YES but not that much. The accuracy of both is equal. So, 1 gun get a LV, if you can afford 2 guns, 1 LV and 1 HV but go out of your way to get the same in both classes, ie same style of action and action configuation, same stock, same scope, and most important the same measurements.
 
bill gammon said:
The actual rule reads
Sporter Class 10.5 lb weight, larger then a .230 cal
Light Varmint Class 10.5 lb weight any cal
Heavy Varmint Class 13.5 lb any cal
There is no sense going into more depth here.
If you can only have 1 gun a 6PPC, 6BR, etc, fits all 3 classes. A .224 cal fits LV and HV. Now I am going to say something and I know this will bring all of the experts out who will disagree, but I really don't care. "ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL"! 14 lbs will outshoot 13 lbs, 13 lbs will outshoot 12 lbs, 12 lbs will outshoot 11 lbs, and on and on. A 13.5 lb rifle is easier to handle then a 10.5 and will, because it is easier, outshoot a 10.5 lb. Are you at a disavantage? YES but not that much. The accuracy of both is equal. So, 1 gun get a LV, if you can afford 2 guns, 1 LV and 1 HV but go out of your way to get the same in both classes, ie same style of action and action configuation, same stock, same scope, and most important the same measurements.
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Thanks Bill. I agree about the 10.5 vs 13.5 accuracy comment. I always thought building a 13.5 lb rifle in a .224 (one of the Waldog variants) would be fun to shoot. Almost no recoil and almost no upset in the bags. Never got around to it.
 
mysticplayer said:
Why not just ballast a light rifle to shoot in a heavier class?

Jerry
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Many do. They put a removable weight system in the stock. Results tend to be rather varied. Some like it, some don't. It changes the way the rifle rides the bags. Some prefer the weight in the barrel or in a heavy action.
 
rpollock said:
There are no scope restrictions in group shooting. There is in hunter class, which is score shooting.
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Yes, thank you for that. I wrote in 'hunter class' for 'sporter' at first, then went back and checked myself. I will likely stay with F class when shooting for score. One of our local ranges has a match shot with true hunting rifles and scopes limited to 9 power, i.e. rifles they actually hunt game with. Groups are 3 shots and shot at ranges to 300 from various positions. I want to participate sometime. Some of the groups were actually quite good. I know my old Springfield will have to limp a bit to keep up, that's for sure. Right now the idea makes more sense to me for a hunter class. We're talking pure bias here, of course. Hunting rifle didn't have a scope restriction in silhouette shooting either, probably still the same, and I was uncomfortable with it, even though, like everyone else, I used a scope much stronger than 9 power. Go figure...fred
 
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