norico problem, possibly found the source?

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I got my norinco about 2 years ago, have put through about 150 rounds. When i first got it, it was fine, but quickly it started to have problems. I would load the first round, and it would fire, and eject like normal. the problem is the next round would not load into the chamber. so id pull the trigger and it would click, but no bang. i would have to work the action by hand and it would then load that round. that was one out of every 3 or 4 shots.

now, i can't shoot two shots in a row. every shot i have to #### it by hand. it shoots, ejects fine, but wont load that second round. i have 3 mags, two 5/20 and a 5/5 and its the same for all of them. i had a friend look at it, and he thought the problem might have been the breach, when it was machined it wasn't smooth enough and the rounds were not able to go up the "ramp" and into the chamber. so we did some light filing and polishing, but still no better.

the only thing i noticed when we had the gun apart, the gas tube did not line up exactly with the gas tube/piston assembly attached to the barrel. perhaps too much gas is escaping from that area, and not enough is being used to power the action to cycle properly.

help me!!
 
What different ammunition have you tried? Does the action move smoothly enough that if you removed the recoil spring, gravity would open or close the bolt?
 
I'd take it apart and clean it thoroughly, (gas system, piston and cylinder, op rod, bolt, receiver, etc) look for any binding, lube and reassemble. I've had the odd unexplainable happening with mine too, but fortunately its not that frequent. I used to shoot S/A surplus from my FN, but I haven't bought any of it in years. I thought it was supposed to work well. I'm preferring the Canadian 7.62 and find it shoots and cycles reliably. If you haven't torn it down, cleaned and lubed it, that's a good starting point. Where are you located? Maybe someone can give you a hand with the teardown if need be.
 
Not nocking, but ither you have too many guns around or not enough time for the range.. I've done about 1600 rounds through my CZ858 in 2 months, and i have 300 rounds for a day at the range for my Sig when it comes.. PLus the rest of the 400 on my 7.62 box :D i like the smell of burnt gun powder what can i say?


Sorry for not having any usefull info.. i just like to come on the norc forums and waste space since everyone has problems with them.
 
Gas problem. If you hand #### it and it shoots but doesn't have enough force to cycle the action on the ejection / reload you've got a gas problem.

You may want to do this:

(A) call norinco and tell them you want them to fix it.
(B) get a m1a scout from springfield that is put togeather without using a political prisoner / forced labour from tibet.
(C) sleep better at night knowing you have't put money in the pockets of human abusing chicom ####ers.

my opinion - nothing more nothing less.
 
200250126 said:
I got my norinco about 2 years ago, have put through about 150 rounds. When i first got it, it was fine, but quickly it started to have problems. I would load the first round, and it would fire, and eject like normal. the problem is the next round would not load into the chamber. so id pull the trigger and it would click, but no bang. i would have to work the action by hand and it would then load that round. that was one out of every 3 or 4 shots.

now, i can't shoot two shots in a row. every shot i have to #### it by hand. it shoots, ejects fine, but wont load that second round. i have 3 mags, two 5/20 and a 5/5 and its the same for all of them. i had a friend look at it, and he thought the problem might have been the breach, when it was machined it wasn't smooth enough and the rounds were not able to go up the "ramp" and into the chamber. so we did some light filing and polishing, but still no better.

the only thing i noticed when we had the gun apart, the gas tube did not line up exactly with the gas tube/piston assembly attached to the barrel. perhaps too much gas is escaping from that area, and not enough is being used to power the action to cycle properly.
help me!!
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Can you explain this part a little more? This is where I would expect the problem to be...are you saying the hole in the barrel does not line up with the hole in the gas cylinder?
 
misanthropist said:
Can you explain this part a little more? This is where I would expect the problem to be...are you saying the hole in the barrel does not line up with the hole in the gas cylinder?
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ill try and get a picture.

its been taken apart and cleaned, and actually unlike other m14s it came in very little packing grease.
 
Is your barrel index properly maybe that is why the gas port does not nine up properly? I agree it sounds like a Gas problem. If you hand #### it and it shoots but doesn't have enough force to cycle the action on the ejection / reload you've got a gas problem What does Hungry say? Have you tried emailing him? If you bought it at marstar give john a call I'm sure he will help you.
 
aninchlow said:
(B) get a m1a scout from springfield that is put togeather without using a political prisoner / forced labour from tibet.
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Instead, you'll get a receiver made in hypocrite, anti-gun, socialist Quebekistan, and fitted with parts made by labourers in unknown locations.

Don't worry, QC in overworked China may be something you personally may elect to loose sleep over.....but even Chinese industrialists wouldn't bother trusting Tibetan-Chinese labour workers. :p
 
blasterbailey said:
Not nocking, but ither you have too many guns around or not enough time for the range.. I've done about 1600 rounds through my CZ858 in 2 months, and i have 300 rounds for a day at the range for my Sig when it comes.. PLus the rest of the 400 on my 7.62 box :D i like the smell of burnt gun powder what can i say?


Sorry for not having any usefull info.. i just like to come on the norc forums and waste space since everyone has problems with them.
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Congratulations for contributing absolutely nothing to this forum.

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

I love that movie :D
 
Really it makes sence... I am asking why the hell so little rounds in 2 years? Oh yeah norc now i get it.

What i said was i have put 1600 through my CZ858 in a month and a bit, and if you knew anythign about 7.62 x39 ammo you'd know it comes in 1100 round surplus boxes in most cases. So that means i have "around" 400 left.. So when i get my sig in the mail, i am taking 300 9mm and the 400 left from the 7.62 to the range..

Like i said i had no usefull info cause norinco is crap and i like to waste space on the "norc problem" pages.

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Poor baby want a sucker?
 
misanthropist said:
Pics would be good!

Your gas cylinder nut is tight and everything though, right? It does sound like the pressure is bleeding off too fast, and so it's not throwing the op rod back far enough to cycle.
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yeah its tightened right up. could this be a mag problem? that it can't force the next round up quick enough?

im discouraged because the firearm is over the year warranty from marstar.
 
aninchlow said:
You may want to do this:

(A) call norinco and tell them you want them to fix it.
(B) get a m1a scout from springfield that is put togeather without using a political prisoner / forced labour from tibet.
(C) sleep better at night knowing you have't put money in the pockets of human abusing chicom f**kers.

my opinion - nothing more nothing less.
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Maybe have a look at all the electronics in your home and the computer you are typing on and see where they were made.......................;)

IMO, Springfield products are highly over priced and their quality isn't what it used to be...........as well they use some Chinese made contract parts............

I wouldn't touch a Springfield M1A these days.............I can build a better M14 on a Norinco forged reciever for far less money then the basic Springfield M1A..................

Back to Topic.....................As other have said, probably a gas problem...........gas cylinder not centered on the gas port and/or a loose gas cylinder that needs shimming.............make sure the op rod runs straight and is aligned with the barrel and not binding/rubbing anything..................I would replace the Norinco op rod spring with a USGI spring...............that makes a difference.............

SKBY.
 
blasterbailey said:
Like i said i had no usefull info cause norinco is crap and i like to waste space on the "norc problem" pages.
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If you only aim is to post in threads to disrupt them and cause sh*t, you will find yourself having a "vacation" from CGN.............maybe permanently.............

Take that as your warning.

SKBY.
 
I'm going to make real stretch and gues your name on CGN is your ID# at Medicine Hat College. If so, we should meet up and do some shooting in Sept. Also, if you are in or around the Hat you might want to PM Kano on these boards as he was a student, has some M-305 experiance and loves to tinker. He'd probably help you, I would myself If I hadn't moved home for the summer
 
Winz said:
Instead, you'll get a receiver made in hypocrite, anti-gun, socialist Quebekistan, and fitted with parts made by labourers in unknown locations.
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Also Springfield Inc. M1A recievers have been known to be a bit off on their dimensions and are cast recievers..................While Norinco Recievers are forged and are right on spec when compared to the Almighty TRW recievers!!!:D

SKBY.
 
Most people who think they know anything about China really don't. I work with 4 Chinese factories on a regular basis (not Norinco, and not in the firearms industry). Just as there are bad business owners here, there are bad business people there too. Our factories have no children, no slaves, no political prisoners (or prisoners of any sort), just state of the art assembly of a high quality product. People trash chinese factory production, when in most cases the problem isn't the production, its the people here communicating clearly with the factory people. Been there, done that.

Yeah, their government are dopes, but the way to defeat communism is by increasing the free market, not by boycotts.
 
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