IPSC 3 gun matches - What's the low down, how do they work??

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Hello All,

I'm kinda curious about this whole 3 gun thing.

There is a match coming up at EESA towards months end. Stormbringer has been nice enough to offer to allow me access to his equipment to shoot this.

How do 3 gun matches work?

What's the firearm of choice for Rifle and Shotgun?

What other gear should I be looking to get should the big bit me or I decided to just buy my own kit before the event?

Any other advice so I don't feel like a total newbie standing out there the day of would be great.
 
Its actually very similar to regular handgun matches but can be done at longer ranges.


1) Shotgun: Most popular would be the 870 then the Mossy 590. Semis are relatively rare but Benellis are around.

You will be shooting at stationary clay pigeons standing on vertical posts as well as steel plates and steel pepper poppers. Buckshot and slugs are used on standard paper targets.

Distances from 5 m to 50 m or so.


2) Rifle: AR15s dominate but there are SKSs, VZ58s and CX4 storms around as well. There is also the occasinal M14 or M305

Only paper targets are shot at for EESA matches.

Distances............well as close as 3 or 4 feet. The furtherst? Well thus far I have only put targets out to 200m. That said we do have a 300m range don't we.
 
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Well guys, my advice to you would be to make arrangements with some kind soul to borrow equipment for the first match or two. There is quite a lot of equipment involved with 3 gun. Just take your standard IPSC gear and multiply by three. At the match you will be able to get an idea of what you like, what you might want, and most importantly, what you will need. Also depends on what division you will compete in. Read up on the rifle and shotgun rules on ipsc.org. That way, your substantial investment won't be wasted on stuff ill suited to your needs and hopefully won't need to be re-purchased. Do it once, and do it right. Storm is an awesome guy and a good host. Take him up on his offer. Pay for ammo, and go have fun. I'm warning you though, it's brutally addictive. It will make you broke. Guaranteed.
 
Someone will have to show me how these speed loaders work for shotguns.

As odd as it sounds, I don't think i follow the mechanics of how they work.

They look like they'd be great for duck hunting hahaha.



I think it's a little too late for the addiction thing. I shot my first IPSC event in Woodstock last weekend. I found myself out at EESA at 3am for a little fun. Came walking out in the AM to find a few of the regular guys getting ready for a Hunter Safety course ... I got a got odd looks.
 
200 to 300m!!:runaway:

I was thinking of trying 3-gun but I don't have the eyes for these kinds of ranges.:(
I think I am more into the closer stuff. Guess that is why CAS looks so good to me.:dancingbanana:
 
I found out the hard way.

Semi Shotty is faster then a pump firing, But you gotta reload more often because 5+1 and some speed stages are 8 shots so unless you got a 8+1 shotgun you ain't gonna win that stage. Those tube feeders is the only real fast way to load a semi. I could load my Rem 1100 quite fast but I lost time on how often I had to reload. I found it was faster to load shells from a dump pouch then trying to grab ammo from my side saddle.

VZ58 was good, But your going against AR's using 10rds mags so the 5rd VZ don't cut it.

So I learned from my past lessons. So I picked up some 10rds mags for my AR and a Moss 590 8+ 1.
 
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John in B.C. said:
200 to 300m!!:runaway:

I was thinking of trying 3-gun but I don't have the eyes for these kinds of ranges.:(
I think I am more into the closer stuff. Guess that is why CAS looks so good to me.:dancingbanana:
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To be honest most clubs do not have long enough ranges. On average the targets are more like 50 to 75 m max.


EESA just happens to have a lovely 300m range.
 
RobertMcC said:
I found out the hard way.

Semi Shotty is faster then a pump firing, But you gotta reload more often because 5+1 and some speed stages are 8 shots so unless you got a 8+1 shotgun you ain't gonna win that stage. Those tube feeders is the only real fast way to load a semi. I could load my Rem 1100 quite fast but I lost time on how often I had to reload. I found it was faster to load shells from a dump pouch then trying to grab ammo from my side saddle.

VZ58 was good, But your going against AR's using 10rds mags so the 5rd VZ don't cut it.

So I learned from my past lessons. So I picked up some 10rds mags for my AR and a Moss 590 8+ 1.
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I havent tried 3-gun match yet, but getting my gear ready for it and would like to try one of the matches soon. I presently have the 590A1 (8+1), but thinking of getting a semi-shotgun (M4). I have been really thinking about this magazine factor between 5-round cap for semi against 8+1 pump advantage. I am not quiet sure which way to go. This question goes to 3-gun match shooters... if you really have the money to buy one of the ultimate shotty for 3-gun match (in Canada - NOT for USA 3-gun match purpose), does the 8+1 pump really have an advantage against a semi 5-rounder?

Critter, I am sorry for hi-jacking your thread :redface:

I guess I better start my own thread. :)
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240626
 
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Plug or not it sounds good to me. If it came down to it I would take a pass on any type of action shoot with shots much past 50m.
Number 1 I would have trouble seeing that far and Number 2 I am interested in fast action FUN which - to me - means big targets up close;)
 
nognog said:
I havent tried 3-gun match yet, but getting my gear ready for it and would like to try one of the matches soon. I presently have the 590A1 (8+1), but thinking of getting a semi-shotgun (M4). I have been really thinking about this magazine factor between 5-round cap for semi against 8+1 pump advantage. I am not quiet sure which way to go. This question goes to 3-gun match shooters... if you really have the money to buy one of the ultimate shotty for 3-gun match (in Canada - NOT for USA 3-gun match purpose), does the 8+1 pump really have an advantage against a semi 5-rounder?

Critter, I am sorry for hi-jacking your thread :redface:

I guess I better start my own thread. :)
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240626
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8+1 has a advantage because it carries more rounds and like I said some stages are 8 rounds so a Semi 5+1 you gotta reload mid way in the stage to finish it. Advantage of having 3-4 extra rounds saves you time reloading and how often you gotta. Only Advantage with a semi is that you can get those 5+1 rounds much faster.
 
John in B.C. said:
Plug or not it sounds good to me. If it came down to it I would take a pass on any type of action shoot with shots much past 50m.
Number 1 I would have trouble seeing that far and Number 2 I am interested in fast action FUN which - to me - means big targets up close;)
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When it comes to EESA...........I put in as many plugs as I can as I love the place.


Now..........scopes are allowed for rifle so shots past 50 m are possible. As to "fast action" stages. Well I put on both types to satisfy all the needs of those in attendance. Some like long shots. Some like short range quick stages.
 
stormbringer said:
When it comes to EESA...........I put in as many plugs as I can as I love the place.


Now..........scopes are allowed for rifle so shots past 50 m are possible. As to "fast action" stages. Well I put on both types to satisfy all the needs of those in attendance. Some like long shots. Some like short range quick stages.
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Short Dot Style are the best I found, Something with 1.5 - 5 X. Allows you to use it like a reddot and then crank up the Mag for longer shots. Most Ive seen use Iron Sights. Open guys use the reddots or well optics.
 
100 yards with an AR is a piece of cake anyone should be a able to hit an IPSC target with the iron sights at that distance,even after running 100 yards to get to them, 200 yard 8" plates on the other hand......
 
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