Pros and Cons of the HK USP

Soli said:
You can't CCW in Canada, so what are you really concerned with?
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I'm concerned about my over-use of dancing banana's at the moment.

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I'm not making it pay for my inadequacies, I don't like the gun. I won't be buying it. I belive the thread was entitled "Pros and Cons".

Without having shot one, I happen to think the huge size is a con.

Than again, it's all relative.
 
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I don't own one because for me cons outweigh the pros;

Cons:
Really bad ergonomics (for me)
Expensive!
High bore axis

Pros:
I like the looks of Custom Sport model
Supposed to be reliable and accurate
 
novan3 said:
Personally, though I've never shot one (only in Counter-Strike), I think HK's Universal Self-loading Pistol is over-priced in respect to similar performing pistols.
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WELL THAT SETTLES IT. You've got real USP performance data from COUNTER STRIKE? The game where hopping helps you avoid bullets?

Well in real life I happen to have a USP and I can tell you this: I've shot a lot of different service pistols and the USP is awesome. Side by side with a colt 1911 it is wider and it definatley has a very different style of recoil. The helixial barrel is awesome. I've never had a problem with the trigger but I have put a small lead foundry through the thing. My USP doesn't have the ORING and I've tried a O-RING BARREL and it does make very small difference. The AMBI saftey / decocker is awesome and uncomplicated. I've never been a fan of the 3 saftey system on the 1911's and I didn't mind the price tag for such a reliable gun. I've never had the gun fail or not feed properly (other then with semi wad cutter lead handloads) which incidentally the manual says you shouldn't use but I've shot probably 10,000 of them through.... I like the way they cut the paper targets clean and they are soft on the barrel which is so smooth it's ###y. I have shot my partners Sig P220 (right model number?????) and it sucks for people with man hands... nevermind the fact that SIG engineers have a hate on for brass and like their guns to have a 2:30 dangerzone where brass being flung from their weapons P220, SIG 552 (blackspecial) can kill. I have meat mittens and the USP is one of the few guns that actually fits and I don't have 2 fingers hanging off the bottom. If you had small hands (and run carnival rides and can fit in small places) you might not like this gun. :dancingbanana: plus the 10 rnd double stackers are awesome. The empty .45 cases pop out nice and neat and make reloading a breeze because you don't have to search all over the range for them.

The .45 is definatley the best round for the USP IMO. I've shot the 9mm the .40 and the .45 and I got the distinct feeling they built the USP Mark 23 and then dumbed the pistol down to the other models. It just seems that the .45 is the smoothest round and the gun just rolls nice.

If price is your main sticky point in deciding to get this gun... say yes. You'll buy one and people will want to trade a clip for a clip at the range and you'll be happy every time that you made the choice you did. I've shot the p2000 and its great but since we don't have CCW who cares, the USP is more accurate. Especially the Expert, which I've shot and want to get. The longer barrel and the adjustable sights are the one thing that the USP doesn't have but would be nice to have. the Tactical also has the threaded barrel and would also be cool to have, just incase one day we get to have silencers....... in the meantime the bull#### factor is high so it counts for something right?

My opinion and no one elses....... ok I read it in a book and it's just another case of playjorism. (sp?)

cheers :wave:
 
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Soli said:
You know, I read a lot about people's problems with the USP trigger. I haven't experienced that at all: perhaps it's because I've dry-fired the @&!* out of it, along with throwing a lot of lead downrange, but it's the best trigger I've pulled in all of the handguns I've owned so far.

Maybe I got lucky? :dancingbanana:
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Im sure the trigger works itself in after use :D

I just find it a little heavy for a single action trigger, although im kinda pampered by the Mark23's Match trigger :p


Its got a nice reset to it though, quite short.
 
it's an HK so when it breaks (and it will as it's an HK) you can't get parts for it. Buy a quality gun, or just keep your Sig, which is a better gun anyhow.
 
targettarget said:
Without having shot one, I happen to think the huge size is a con.

Than again, it's all relative.
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So you haven't shot the USP, but somehow you have the irresistible desire to share your ignorance with us? Have you even held the f*ckin' thing?
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Slavex said:
it's an HK so when it breaks (and it will as it's an HK) you can't get parts for it. Buy a quality gun, or just keep your Sig, which is a better gun anyhow.
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I disagree with you on that,...I know from owning them,,,they are brutally tough,...and feed anything. I had no problem getting parts which I didn't need. Still have a bag full of stuff in the gun room. Every sig I handled had a very strong recoil spring,...which I do not feel was needed,...unless you are running some +P ammo,...even then,, HK's recoil spring is lighter, but utilizes its buffer system. I ran 145 PF ammo and 120pf ammo in the same gun,...ran like a champ.

Cons; grip is not for everyone, the P30-L will eventually make the USP obsolete. (IMO)

Pros; dead on reliable,...very accurate for a polymer pistol,...and SA trigger is very good, DA is ok. you can use a $12 plate to change it to just about any type of set up (See the variants page for the USP).
 
Soli said:
So you haven't shot the USP, but somehow you have the irresistible desire to share your ignorance with us? Have you even held the f*ckin' thing?
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Alright, Alright. Lets recap.....for those who need it. I said:

"It's ugly.
It's huge
It's expensive.
It's made by HK which, in my opinion is a company I would never support because they hate selling guns to the civilian market."

Did I mention that I shoot one anywhere in there? Nope. But I have seen one, thanks.

If I can come up with 4 Cons before I've even held one, it's not worth pursuing.

Thanks for trying. Please come again.
 
I have shot one before, the controls were very easy to reach with my grip which I really liked. It was a 9mm varient with a stainless slide, overall function was good and I remember mags were very easy to insert upon reloading.

Not much feedback, but some, it was only 100 rounds a couple years ago..

Would I buy one as a long term range gun?
probably not, they are nice guns, but I think there are better choices out there, especially ones in which parts are easy to aquire. I have heard very good range storys for these guns in which they feed anything, are reliable and accurate, so if you do choose it its certainly not a poor choice. Just not my cup of tea.

If I had a crapload of cash sitting around I would buy one for the novelty of it, probably the usp tactical, but again just a novelty.
 
I own one... and while I bought used for aroun 800 like a year ago... I've had only one issue with it which was due to not cleaning :D heh heh

I love it although shooting 45 gets expensive when you're going through ammo quite a bit (yeah I know time to reload)

I would recommend one last one I've seen was on the EE for aroun 700 in 9.

But definately not for everybody, although I see people shoot glock and than go to my 45 and do better with the 45 (even though the one guy had really small hands he shot better)

To each their own though.

Luke
 
I've owned a USP40 for a couple of years now. Of the 3 handguns, I currently own, the USP is my least favorite. I like my P226 (9mm) best and then my XD45.

In truth, I really disliked shooting the USP because of the uncomfortable grip. I bought a rubber slip on grip sleeve a little while back and it completely changed the utility of the gun for me. I like shooting the USP now. Sounds silly but that $12 grip made a BIG difference :) It's still my least favorite gun but the other two are tough competition.
 
Farley said:
I already own a P226 and love it. I am looking for something a little different. Is the p2000 a DAO trigger or can it be a DA/SA? Is the USP compact better for smaller hands?
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I did a thread on the P2000 when I got mine. It is a really fun gun to shoot. When I get my extended baseplates I'll put up some pictures. I'm getting some more mags as well.

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233739

Some guys like the LEM trigger (a kind of lighter, improved double action trigger, similar to the SIG DAK trigger or Para's LDA - which has the most honest name of the three acronyms :)), I like single action though, so that is what I got. Internally it is quite similar to the USP, but the whole thing is just sort of a "one generation more advanced and refined" version of the USP. They have made some improvements. The decocker is better. The bore axis isn't as high. The stock trigger is a bit better (I think). The mags are metal this time. The barrel/slide lock-up seems better, and that weird slide/frame play in the USP has been reduced (although I appreciate that some people say this shouldn't really affect accuracy with this kind of design). The big thing is that the grip is so much better on the P2000. It is just a tad short though, hence the need for the baseplates. The grips on the P30, P30L and HK45 all look a lot better than the USP as well.

Anyway... P2000 is very nice. I like mine a lot. It won`t out shoot a SIG on accuracy, but it more than holds it`s own for a small gun, and should out shoot most GLOCK-type guns for most shooters. At some point we will probably have some P30's and some P30L's. We haven't really had USP compacts in Canada much, other than the .45 Tactical with the threaded barrel. The newer generation guns are the way to go anyway.
 
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They're great guns.

The only cons I have are that the mag release isn't for everybody and ... well that's about it. Mine was tough, accurate and completely reliable over the 5 or 6000 rounds I put through it in IPSC.

The only reason I sold it was I was always explaining to RO's how the mag dropped and that if they thought they saw my finger in the trigger guard on the first part of a reload it was because that's how the mag release worked.

That's the reason I shoot a Glock now.
 
Infractions handed out and off-topic posts removed. Keep the discussion civil.

Smarten the #### up and act like adults. If you have something to contribute do so. If you have no idea what you're talking about, don't post.
 
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