When I go to the range , everything thats in my gun locker goes too. I often have the .22 along side the big stuff when I am shooting at the 300 yard target and the 330 yard silouettes. I can sometimes hit the sheep and pigs at that distance but many things come into my favor. Such as dead calm, right lighting and sun angle, scope actually sighted and dialed in for that distance. It is a challenge to try and hit the targets, but I only take serious scores when I use ring targets at 50M . I use the close stuff for scoring, and the far stuff for fun only. I am way too inconsistent at that distance to ever try scoring. I dont think I would try further if I could because I more or less lob and guess my shots at 330 as it is.
Range of 22 LR regardless of brand
- Thread starter deadeyedyck
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My CFSC teacher told me that somewhere out west, back in the day (he provided both the location and the date, but I can't remember), there was a mysterious death of a farmer/landowner who had a .22 bullet that hit him in the temple. The police initally suspected his farmhand, but in their investigation of the surronding farms, they discovered that some kids had been shooting soup cans prone off of a tall fence post with a .22. They set up the situation again, putting a frame where the soup can was and shooting from the same spot that the kids were in. They set up a 10 foot by something foot thing of plywood where they farmer had been standing. And apparently, they shoot 50 bullets through the frame, and 30 some of them hit that piece of plywood which was about 1.5 km away.
The instructor said after that incedent, .22 ammo manufacturers were forced to put 'Dangerous to 1.5km' on their ammo boxes.
I don't know if that is total bull, but our instructor seemed pretty certain that it was indeed history. I haven't bothered to look up its authenticity, I'm just relating what I have been told.
The instructor said after that incedent, .22 ammo manufacturers were forced to put 'Dangerous to 1.5km' on their ammo boxes.
I don't know if that is total bull, but our instructor seemed pretty certain that it was indeed history. I haven't bothered to look up its authenticity, I'm just relating what I have been told.
I'm not saying it's not dangerous, but seriously. If you could, with 22lr hit a piece of plywood 1.5 kms away, 60% of all shots, even with aimed fire, I'd be seriously amazed.
Perhaps it was a calm day ^^ Like I said, I am only relating what I heard, I never claimed that I saw it or read a report on it.
I should have asked my instructor where I could find the news article on it. Perhaps he heard it from someone else too, and that person from someone else *shrug*
I should have asked my instructor where I could find the news article on it. Perhaps he heard it from someone else too, and that person from someone else *shrug*
Obviously, you are only relaying what you have heard, but I call BS on that one! A zephyr of a breeze would have made that 100% misses at 1500 meters. The fencepost would have to be 8 ft tall and the kids would have to be within 20 feet of it.
If any hits were recorded on the plywood, the chances of penetration are zip.
Here's where we need mythbusters on the job!! Eagleye.
Why not investigate yourself? Take a 1/2 sheet of plywood. Put it out at 300yards. Not 1500. 300. Now get your 22 and without making any adjustments to the scope if equipped, see how many shots it takes you to even hit the plywood in the first place. When you finally get on target, note what angle you are holding the gun to acheive that hit at a measly 300 yards.
Still without adjusting your sights, shoot a 5 shot group. Let us now how many shots you actually take to get a 5 shot group. Guess where you will be aiming? If you are lucky, there will be a cloud somewhere above your target with a distinctive part somewhere close to where you need to aim that's not moving too fast!
Now extrapolate your findings out to 1.5kms.
Don't take my word for it, do it!
Well after reading this thread the last few days, I went to the 300 yard range here in Yellowknife, with my trusty CIL model 171 .22 LR that is equipped with a 21" barrel , and using a leadsled to hold the rifle steady, I took aim at the metal animal silouettes and let about 100 rounds fly. There was a very light breeze coming at a slight angle from behind. AND LET ME TELL YOU, not ONE came close to the animals. The barrel was cleaned very well before shooting, but the bullets were EVERYWHERE. Some were 30 feet off target and there was no rhyme or reason why they ended up going left and right and down and up. I can say that I am sure, if you aimed and had a pigeon carry your round to your target at 1500 yards, you still would not hit it. There is just not enough velocity in a .22 LR to keep it close to on course past 200 yards and that is pushing it. But GOOD LUCK with your 500/1000/1500 yard shooting. I am sure you will do well with that.
(P.S. I am not some snot nosed beginner and have shot tens of thousands of rimfire rounds, so please let me know "WHEN YOU GET YOUR RIFLE" how that works out for you!!)
(P.S. I am not some snot nosed beginner and have shot tens of thousands of rimfire rounds, so please let me know "WHEN YOU GET YOUR RIFLE" how that works out for you!!)
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sgt.rock, it wasn't so much a conversation about how far you can shoot accurately then how far the bullet can/would/will travel. or at least, that is the can of worms I opened up when I somewhat misinterpreted the purpose of the OP's post. perhaps the rifle would have to have a crazy tilt to 'lob' the bullet, but the fact is the bullet can still be lobbed.
Relax Mr. friendly! I was talking about the validity of Slippery's story;
Now if Sgt. Rock is missing the target by 30feet at 300 yards from a rest, what do you think the odds are of catching 30 out of 50 at 1.5kms?
No one is doubting that with the exact angle, and more than likely from a hill or other elevated position, a 22lr could be dangerous out to 1.5km.
If it happened to hit your eyeball.......
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I'm not stressing out Joe...but I guess to put what my feelings are into better perspective, consider this. if I had the .22LR, would you want to be directly downrange from me (as in I could probably see you in my scope), even if it's a click or two? probably not.
but again, I misinterpreted the OP's original meaning. I thought he was talking about the mentality that people don't consider the .22LR to be a dangerous round when he spoke of the 50 - 100 yard range of the bullet, when in fact what he meant was how nobody really seems to try to shoot further with the .22LR then that. like I said...because I misunderstood, I opened a completely different can of worms!
I didn't want to come across like an ass, so I apologize Mr. Friendly. I just was making a statement about how wildly inaccurate the .22 can be and is at ranges past 150 or so yards. After so long in flight, it loses all its initial energy and either hits ground, or if the shot is "lobbed" into the air at say a 45 degree angle to get max distance, its target speed would be more determined by gravity (9.8 m/s squared) and would reach a terminal velocity the same as a skydiver would. Gravity will make the shot speed up , up to a certain level, where it equals wind resisitance. So yes, if you got hit in the head by a shot at a long distance by a .22, I am sure it would hurt, much like me going up on a tall building and dropping a dime. You dont want to get it on the noggin, but conditions have to be perfect for lethality.
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I regularly plink to 200+yds with my 10/22 and wally bulk Fed. Milk jug sized rocks are quite easy to hit offhand.
I want to try further to see what happens. Lots of scope elevation will be necessary.
I think the biggest weakness will be vertical stringing. I can shoot on a calm day so that reduces one problem but bad ammo will be the limiting factor.
If I had ammo that didn't string, shooting out to 500yds should be possible. Just not sure how big a target I will need?????
Jerry
I want to try further to see what happens. Lots of scope elevation will be necessary.
I think the biggest weakness will be vertical stringing. I can shoot on a calm day so that reduces one problem but bad ammo will be the limiting factor.
If I had ammo that didn't string, shooting out to 500yds should be possible. Just not sure how big a target I will need?????
Jerry
