Advice on purchasing first Norinco

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I'm trying to decide which Norinco to buy and could use some advice as this will be my first handgun purchase and I don't know a lot (save from what I've read on this forum so far). I'm leaning toward the Tokarev 9mm Two-Tone because of the price, but am curious as to why it is so much cheaper than the others. Is there a difference in quality between these and say the 1911 or SIG models? Also, I like the two-tone look but is there a difference in durability of the finish compared to the all-black?

Sorry if these are dumb questions - go easy on a newbie...
 
If you want low cost, get a 7.62, and a couple of cases of ammunition. Lots of cheap shooting. Don't get one with the add on thumb safety, get one that is essentially the same as original issue.
The single stack 1911A1 clones are generally well reported. My NP-29 9mm has about 2700 rounds through it now and is just chugging right along. You don't often hear many complaints about the .45s.
There has been the occasional report of a cracked frame with the SIG clones, the CZ copies seem to be well liked.
The Chinese copy of the FEG copy of the Browning has had mixed reviews.
The little 93, the copy of the early Woodsman .22, seems to be generally well liked, although some have reported ammunition sensitivity, even the odd one that doesn't work well with anything. I've only shot one, it was a great little plinker.
Now a 1911A1 type is $325-$350 plus tax and delivery. Say, $400. You might want to consider what you could find in the way of a used brand name pistol. New Norincos are cheaper than just about anything else new. Some folks would rather have a used brand name pistol than a new Norinco.

For a first pistol, you might consider a used Ruger .22, or if you want a centrefire, a used S&W or Colt .38 Special police type revolver. Generally, the pistol won't be expensive, and the ammunition will be cheap.
Don't decide that your first gun has to be a Norinco.
 
Tiriaq is quite right, if budget is a factor, I think a well used Ruger .22 is a good idea. If you are able to put a little more, then get a NZ 85, or NP 29, both copy of proven design and all steel. the NP 29 is very well known for easy resale. Anything 9mm can be reload for cheap.

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... Some folks would rather have a used brand name pistol than a new Norinco...

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In other threads, you will see people are just about evenly split on the worth of Norinco pistols. I fall into the "I will never buy a Norc" category. A used brand (any brand, even a Ruger) is safer than a new norc. It is a crap shoot and I don't gamble.
 
I am eyeing the norc's also, the 1911s in particular. Because I feel that I may want a better 1911 in the future (when I can afford one) I think that a norc 1911 would be good to help me become familiar with the design.

So to answer your question I would go with a 1911 out of the norcs.

However, don't discount what tiriaq says. A very good quality .22 pistol or38/357 revolver can be had for less than $500. As a first handgun the Ruger MKII, MKIII, and 22/45 are great, as is the Browning Buckmark. You can shoot all day for les than $20 with a .22. I have a Ruger GP100 .38/.357 that is built like a tank, is economical to shoot with .38, and is a powerhouse with hot .357 loads.

Have fun!
 
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In other threads, you will see people are just about evenly split on the worth of Norinco pistols. I fall into the "I will never buy a Norc" category. A used brand (any brand, even a Ruger) is safer than a new norc. It is a crap shoot and I don't gamble.

Chevy and Ford make lemons as well, just because it's Chinese made doesn't make it "crap" or "unsafe".

I have 3 Nork's ( M-14, SKS and a NP30) and there are ALL great weapons and would put them up agianst the counterpart any day. As a matter of fact, my NP30, which I just bought, has a surprizingly nice finsh on it.

Go ahead and get a Nork from Marstar. If it is a lemon, send it back to them and you get another one. No worries.
 
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"...why it is so much cheaper than the others..." They're made in Red China with very low cost labour and sold cheap to get hard currency into the country.
The biggest downside to any Tokarev model is the lack of aftermarket grips. If a pistol doesn't quite fit your hand(that's absolutely essential with any pistol for good shooting), a change of grips can fix it. If you can't get 'em...
Norinco 1911's are copies of the Colt. There are lots of aftermarket grips that'll fit and 1911's tend to fit most people's hands well. Unfortunately, Marstar is sold out of them.
You can get aftermarket grips for the Sig copies without much fuss. However, it must fit your hand. Pop into your local gun shop and try a real Sigon for size, if they have one. Or ask around at your club.
"...get a 7.62..." Sold out.
 
Marstar is getting a large shipment of Norks in the very near future. Watch their website closely or (better) phone them and get in on the deals while they are available. While I enjoyed my Nork Tok in 7.62 (and the 9mm barrel) I found the trigger pretty poor. For first handgun, I recommend a Ruger .22. I have a Mk III 22/45 that cost me $310 new from P&D. Great deal and fits well in my hand - not finicky with ammo. For centrefire, try to score a Norinco 9mm 1911 if you can - they're very popular. Or go big calibre and get the standard 1911A1 in .45 ACP. I love mine. Then buy reloading gear - you'll need it :)
 
Thanks for all the useful insight so far, everyone. I think I was a little unclear in my first post though - I can appreciate the difference in quality between a knock off and the real thing and that you get what you pay for. I was more trying to figure out the reasons for the price differences between the various Norinco models. For example, the $150 difference between the 9mm Tokarev and 1911 models.
 
Who knows? They are probably not made in the same factory. The Tokarev was made as the Type 54 in huge numbers for service use, the Colt clones for commercial sale, in smaller numbers. Maybe some or all of the Tokarev parts are from existing inventory.
 
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