Bad News for AR enthusiasts

New export permits coming through from US State Department have significant restrictions on AR configurations and accessories now being allowed for export to civilian end-users and commercial re-sales. Most of our old permits are now either expired or used-up so what we have in stock is going to be the "end" for some models and configurations. Specifically being named as no longer allowed for export on newly approved permits: flash hiders (but muzzle breaks or compensators are okay), bayonet lugs, collapsible or folding stocks, 5.56NATO chambers, 7.62NATO chambers, AR Pistols of all caliber.
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What do they mean by 5.56 NATO and 7.62 NATO "chambers"? If a 7.62 NATO is no good, would a 308 Winchester be acceptable?
 
From what the other dealers have been saying, they're just going to start stamping them .223 and .308.
 
Scarecrow said:
Changed back? Not likely. Usually the dealers find another way, the BATF rarely does anything to reverse a stupid decision.
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BATFE are not involved, State Dept is.

Remember a few years back when every single part or whole AR-15 was going to entail a seperate end user certificate? Lasted a long time didn't it?
 
flash hider we can make
bayo lug how cares
barels we can cut and drill
but stocks we are pretty much screwd, shure we can get normal stuff out of europe or something but no more cool ones from magpul and such
 
New export permits coming through from US State Department have significant restrictions on AR configurations and accessories now being allowed for export to civilian end-users and commercial re-sales. Most of our old permits are now either expired or used-up so what we have in stock is going to be the "end" for some models and configurations. Specifically being named as no longer allowed for export on newly approved permits: flash hiders (but muzzle breaks or compensators are okay), bayonet lugs, collapsible or folding stocks, 5.56NATO chambers, 7.62NATO chambers, AR Pistols of all caliber.
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Will this have any affect on the legality of a certain popular item?
 
P12 said:
I've been thinking that too, how hard can it be to set up a CNC machine and make some parts. Injection moldet plastic can't be that hard to do either.
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Maybe with the new restriction it will be more financially viable because of an increased local market? Financal backing probably is the biggest problem.
 
Not new. No flash hiders have been allowed since 2005. The no 556 has also been the case, but now they are stressing that if rifles are marked or chambered 556, rather than 223, shipments will be seized and exporters subject to criminal prosecution.

You cannot imagine how blunt the licenses are. For example, We have been importing pinned stocks since 2005 with DOS design approval, our licenses now say "No collapsible stocks, no pinned collapsible stocks, no parts of collapsible stocks."

and in addition to the 'No 5.56mm Markings' they now said "rifle must made not to be able to chamber a 556 cartridge". This can not be done! We had to submit the specs of our 223 chamber, explain the situation, and ask for a decision, they allowed the chamber, but said that if anything said 556, we'd be charged. They have inspected our shipments as well prior to leaving the USA, fortunately Stag Arms makes our carbines in legal configuration and always have (though this is now our fourth export configuration since 2004), I'm not going to jail over a flash hider or 556 rollmark.

They also threatened Canadian dealers/importers in general that trying to work around these rules could see sanctions ranging from seizure of goods/charges laid, to declaring the AR15 completely non-sporting, resulting in no more civilian sales in Canada.

Pain it the ass, because previously the standards weren't so difficult, threaded compensators for example, now not even a threaded barrel (as in, "No threaded barrel. Crowned barrel or/or pinned compensator only".
 
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dangertree said:
Not new all. No flash hiders have been allowed since 2005. The no 556 has also been the case, but now they are stressing that if rifles are marked 556, OR chambered 556, and have paperwork stating 223, shipments will be seized and exporters subject to criminal prosecution.

You cannot imagine how blunt the licenses are. We have been importing pinned stocks since 2005.

Our licenses now say "No collapsible stock, no pinned collapsible stock, no parts of collapsible stocks."

and in addition to the 'No 5.56mm Markings' they say 'rifle must made not to be able to chamber a 556 cartridge'. We had to submit the specs of our 223 chamber and ask for a decision, they allowed the chamber, but said that if anything said 556, we'd be charged.

They also threatened Canadian dealers/importers in general that trying to work around these rules could see sanctions ranging from seizure of goods/charges laid, to attitionally declaring the AR15 completely non-sporting, resulting in no more civilian sales in Canada.

We were told that it was the advertising of non-configuration AR15s for sale in Canada, particularly those with less than 16" barrels being sold as rifles, that led to last summers crack down and extra threats.

Pain it the ass, because previously the standards weren't so difficult, threaded on compensators, for example, now not even a threaded barrel.
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That's what I love about my country, we'll gladly export everything except the second amendment.:mad:
 
i so am considering leaving canada for good this #### is going to far now

i wonder if the ACR will get labled non sporting i hope not
 
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