Busnell Elite 6500 or Leuplodl VX-III

Leupolds warranty is worth it's weight in gold...you cannot simply dismiss that by saying it will never be needed. The bushnell is a really nice scope, the only beef i had with the 4200 is the adjustment, i couldn't get past 200m on one of my rifles, ran out of adjustments. The new ones say 80MOA..so it appears they may have solved that problem? I wouldn't go as far as to say they have better glass than leupold but they are certainly in the same class...i would personally go for the warranty everytime though, you just never know.
 
Lots of advice here so far, funny, no-one's bothered to ask WHAT'S HE USING IT FOR ???
Hunting? targets? Long range? What options do you need ??
Bushnells are nice I've owned a few (still do) service is good, and lifetime on the ones I buy but the New Bushnell 6500 although its really nice and very clear doesn't have the options "I" need for what i'm doing.

My advice decide what your gonna use the scope for and the options you,ll need..... find the decent companies that have the options you need and then decide from there. Try to find someone at the range that has the one your interested in and get a look through it.

I have a Bushnell Tactical 50 mm on an AR but for the long range rifle 6BR I've got a NightForce NXS 12x42x56.

M.
 
Bushnells return policy on their 6500 is over the counter exchange for 1 year. Try it out. If its not the scope for you take it back and tell them you want to exchange it for the leupold. You have nothing to loose and plus with the purchase of a 6500 you get a trail cam right now.
 
I actually don't understand how they are selling any of the Bushnell Elite 6500 here in Canada. The Zeiss Conquest right now is the same or less than a comparable Leupold and is a better scope. The Bushnell is only slightly cheaper. For $50 to $100 difference around the 1K mark it's not a tough decision. If they were half the cost then sure, or 3/4 at the very most, but they aren't. :confused:
 
Go with the Leupold. Bushnell sevice is the worst in the industry. My 3200 was sent in last Nov and I just got it back the end of Apr.
So ..... your one isolated experience makes it "the worst in the industry"?

I've had service done on Bushnells and was pleased with the service, but that wouldn't make it "the best in the industry".

Most of my scopes are Leupolds so I'm not flogging Bushnell stuff by any stretch, but the higher end Bushells are pretty good scopes and are as reliable as any other scope I've owned.

You can buy a 3200 in 3x9 on the EE for about $200/shipped. That's a good deal.
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So ..... your one isolated experience makes it "the worst in the industry"?

I've had service done on Bushnells and was pleased with the service, but that wouldn't make it "the best in the industry".

Most of my scopes are Leupolds so I'm not flogging Bushnell stuff by any stretch, but the higher end Bushells are pretty good scopes and are as reliable as any other scope I've owned.

You can buy a 3200 in 3x9 on the EE for about $200/shipped. That's a good deal.
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Sorry Paul, but I would have to agree with Icq. I have dealt with Bushnell warranty on numerous occasions, all with their higher end scopes. Not one of those dealings with them was a positive one. The shortest wait was 8 months and the longest being close to 12. On a couple of those dealings lesser scopes were sent back to replace the ones sent in. The last higher end Bushnell product I owned was sold to a member here a few years ago, it was a good scope, but I dreaded the day I ever had a problem with it.

There will never be another Bushnell product in my household, ever. Unless I am selling one that came with a rifle I bought, that will be about the only time.
 
Well, service is the bottom line to any product. If it lacks, then the product lacks. Maybe this Tasco acquisition has something to do with it.

$200 for a 3200 is still a good deal. :)

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$200 for a 3200 is still a good deal. :)

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If a problem arises with said $200 scope and it takes eight months to a year to get your only hunting rifle back up and running, is it still a good deal?

For the amount of shooting/hunting I do, 1 year is unacceptable. I will buy a new scope long before I have to wait that long. Most folks only think of up front costs when it comes to optics, some never think of the long range outlook of things.

Buy quality gear when and where you can and it will save a huge amount of headaches in the long run. If you have to save your money for a bit longer it is worth it on an item that should last you a lifetime if properly taken care of.
 
are you kidding me ? what model scope was it ?with a 50MOA you should be able to make it out to 600Y



it is a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24X40 mm 1" tube..and i'm not kidding you..the max i could zero it was about 250 yards...and it ran out of adjustments now i know i could go get a 20 MOA or 40 MOA base blah blah blah...i'm just saying they are severly lacking in the internal adjustment department.
 
Leupold, but in my opinion stay away from mildots. It's an obsolete system, cluttered and takes up great deal of field-of-view. Rangefinders have made mildots pretty much a white elephant.
 
Leupold, but in my opinion stay away from mildots. It's an obsolete system, cluttered and takes up great deal of field-of-view. Rangefinders have made mildots pretty much a white elephant.

Hey,

i'm not a big fan of mildot either but what would you suggest as an alternative...the R2 reticle on my NF is kinda cluttered too it's no diff than my MK4 Mildot really...what do you use? I haven't gotten that far into shooting so i do use the reticle to aim off and i've only fired out to 600 but have had good result aiming off...i find the MK4 the space between the mildots is too far to use aiming off cuz you're either in between dots and it's not a fine enough aiming point...do you use clicks?
 
I think alot of people just say Leupold because it seems to be the thing to say. I recently had to scope my 257 wby and I was about to drop the cash for the Leupold vx3 4.5-14 BC reticle when I took a look at the 6500 2.5-16 and that's the one that went home with me. I have several Leupolds, a Weaver GS and a NSX. The 6500 is better then any Leupold opticaly no doubt. It also has awesome magnification range and it's cheaper than the Leupolds. The eye relief is also awesome on the 6500. I can go from 2.5-16 without moving my head and have full sight picture the entire time. So ya, go look at both of them and make up your mind.

I hate to say it but i wouldn't take 20 6500s for my mark4.

The reason you pay more for a high end scope such as a leupold or NF becomes very clear in low light conditions, fog, etc. In these conditions the 6500 simply does not compare.

and at least leupold puts reference marks on the turrets so you can actually see what windage and elevation your dialed in for :D

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How does the Bushnell 6500 manage to get such a huge variable range of power setting?

They added an extra internal lens.

Are there any shortfall's with this scope:

Yes, the added lense reduces light transmission. But Bushnell managed the problem nicely with little compromise

Is the eye relief critical (i.e. Does it go black if you are not at an exact distance from the eye piece)

On my 4.5X30 Eye releif is good and the exit pupil is acceptable even @ 30X

What about parallax from short to very long ranges?

User friendly, quickly accesible.

Does it track well on targets from the lowest to highest power setting?

I'll tell you when I come back from the range!

Alex
 
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