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I want an MG-42 and or an M-53 Sarac, and I will obtain one.

Heres my issue. They are prohibited. I noticed that Glock 19's are also prohibited, until you put a barrel on it that is a little longer, such as a bar-sto.

MG-42's are very economical to buy and widely available.

So can I buy an original Waffenampt full-auto MG-42 from Marstar, arriving at my house deactivated?

$875, am I reading that price correctley?

Prohib is a prohib is a prohib..right?
 
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I hope that you are reading that price correctly because I would take an original mg-42 deact for $875 in a heart beat. But it seems unlikely that that would be the case.
 
Hmmm interesting statement. I suppose if you know a guy from the inside or simply ask someone, they can ship it to a gunsmith for a proper deact job. I know fantastic gunsmiths.:cool:
 
Wow... looks like crazy-land in this thread.

Go check the EE. If/When de-act MG42's show up, they are usually:
1) Yugo or Israeli refurbs with mixed parts.
2) NOT #### and click.
3) NOT recent imports, but rather recent de-acts of converted autos.
4) ALWAYS more than $2500.

The Marstar guns are LIVE FULL AUTO. They are NOT for sale to you, or anyone else who does not have either a 12(x) endorsement for full auto guns and/or a movie license and'or a LEO/military contract.

They were all imported POST-PROHIB laws. meaning they had to be imported for the purposes of rental or sale in the form in which they were imported (i.e. prohibited full-auto machine guns). Marstar won't deactivate them to sell to you and it would not be legal for them to do so. Don't believe me? Call and ask. Also, the Marstar guns are Yugo refurbs, not correct ww2 matching originals right out of Wehrmacht service.
 
Claven2 said:
Wow... looks like crazy-land in this thread.

Go check the EE. If/When de-act MG42's show up, they are usually:
1) Yugo or Israeli refurbs with mixed parts.
2) NOT #### and click.
3) NOT recent imports, but rather recent de-acts of converted autos.
4) ALWAYS more than $2500.
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Haha....exactly....a small part of me hoped that there was someone crazy enough to part with an mg42 deact for under 1K.
 
marstar will not deact any of the full autos. i tried to get a mint thompson from them, no deal. what a shame very nice prices for the full auto stuff.
 
Dave Tomlinson"s MG 42, full auto sold at Bud Haynes for about $2500. and you need 12-2.. Eventually all F/A's will be DEWAT'S or buried with the owners,, as the old guys wander off into eternity,,, nobody will LEGALLY be 12-2 anymore!!!:confused: Unfortunately, new dewats are all welded solid, no #### and click, no removable mags,, still better that coming back as a Honda..
 
johnson said:
I want an MG-42 and or an M-53 Sarac, and I will obtain one.

Heres my issue. They are prohibited. I noticed that Glock 19's are also prohibited, until you put a barrel on it that is a little longer, such as a bar-sto.

MG-42's are very economical to buy and widely available.

So can I buy an original Waffenampt full-auto MG-42 from Marstar, arriving at my house deactivated?

$875, am I reading that price correctley?

Prohib is a prohib is a prohib..right?
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Next Question Boy Genius! :popCorn:
 
johnson said:
Well lets see here.

How about purchasing a parts kit from Marstar? Then proceeding with the Americans online to obtain a welded reciever.

$875 dollars is well within my grasp.

http://www.stringtownsupplies.co.uk/discl.htm

^ In the land of no-guns?????
Moving parts.
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If it was ever anything but a semi auto reciever it doesn't matter what has been done to it, it is considered prohib.

Also, the american border is mostly sealed up tighter than a cat's bum for most gun parts that have any use. There's a company (questar if I remember correctly) that sometimes moves guns across the border and deals with the legalities etc, but still difficult.

Good on you to start figuring it out though. If we could get a canadian maker of recievers it could be a major boost to us. Alternatively anyone who can sniff out some loop holes would make a great difference. Don't let everyone get you down, most people here have tried at some point and gotten shut down, but someone's going to figure it out eventually.
 
JOHNSON:
Your statement "I suppose if you know a guy from the inside "
is somewhat upsetting, are you implying that our firm will bend the rules in such a case ?

I can assure you that we WILL NOT....

To the best of my knowledge we are the only firm in Canada with the permits we have, we protect that priviledge.
John
 
CLAVEN 2;
Thank you for saving me a lot of time....
Just a couple of points though....
1) Our FAs cannot be sold to any person with an endorsement, they must have the same license as would a movie supply house, law enforcement, industrial, etc, etc.

2) ALthough most of the Mg-42s we have did come from from the former Yugoslavia, many are in original condition, many match.
For the dedicated collector with the proper papers we can offer many single digit serial numbers.
For the really SERIOUS collector how about #1 ?
Thanks again
John
 
Mg-34;
Although we are licensed to manufacture FAs we cannot deact guns that we import, there is no such prescribed purpose under the law.
John
 
H WALLY;
I designed a SA Mg-42 some time ago. We even had our two pre-production guns approved by the CFC, they are on the FRT.
For the money we would have to sink into the project it is not practical.

I hate to rain on your parade BUT there is a lot more involved than just making "a new receiver" two and a half years and thousand of dollars later we had what we wanted. That is end up with a gun that fires from a closed bolt and can NOT accept full auto parts or components.

If anyone out there wants to do the deal, e mail me. The project is for sale.

John
 
Johnone, is Marstar able to export their full-autos to collectors in other countries? Or has that been stopped as well?
 
johnone said:
JOHNSON:
Your statement "I suppose if you know a guy from the inside "
is somewhat upsetting, are you implying that our firm will bend the rules in such a case ?

I can assure you that we WILL NOT....

To the best of my knowledge we are the only firm in Canada with the permits we have, we protect that priviledge.
John
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As you may know, all places of business tend to bend the rules now and again.

I simply figured that an employee could send one out west here and then have it deactivated by a smith. (disregarding the fact that it still has moveable FA parts).

Is it illegal for me to own a welded up #### and click reciever?

How about a full auto changed to semi auto?



I don't want to get stuck with a 1919 or a '34.
 
johnson said:
Is it illegal for me to own a welded up #### and click reciever?
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No it's not, if the entire deactivation is done to government standards. After that, they are conisdered to be a non-firearm. They are around and deactivated, leaving them in various states of quality appearance, depending upon who did the deactivation. ;)

The one below was an excellent job..........

1943 MG42
(Mfg by Mauser Werke, Borsigwalde)

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Note: Deactivated in compliance with Canadian Laws

234 picture virtual tour in the Germany - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here) http://www.milsurps.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15.

1943 MG42 (Mfg by Mauser Werke, Borsigwalde) (click here)http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=1007

The MKL entry also includes several on-line videos of the MG42 assembly & disassembly, as well combat action, plus there's a contemporary one that shows a U.S. owner (lucky guy) letting loose with an entire 250 round belt in one long burst. Not good for the barrel, but certainly fun to do, at least once.

Regards,
Badger
 
Is it illegal for me to own a welded up #### and click reciever?

How about a full auto changed to semi auto?
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It seems that while it is not illegal for you to own one, it is illegal for Marstar to dewat one of theirs.

Which is probably why johnone is indicating hell will freeze over before he does it.;)
 
johnson said:
As you may know, all places of business tend to bend the rules now and again. You'll be BENDING OVER in PRISON playing with your Rules!!!

I simply figured that an employee could send one out west here and then have it deactivated by a smith. (disregarding the fact that it still has moveable FA parts). 1+1=3

Is it illegal for me to own a welded up #### and click reciever?

#### A DOODLE DOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about a full auto changed to semi auto?



I don't want to get stuck with a 1919 or a '34. If you want to play, you gotta pay!!!
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