Have tracers/need to load them, but dont reload...How?

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Pietro Beretta

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I've got 100 tracer projectiles (7.62 mm/ 145gr.) that need to be loaded, but I dont reload. If I supply the case/primer/powder/bullet, can somebody load/press/crimp them for me (for a labour fee of course), or is that a major liability that nobody would take???

Is there anybody who does this, or do you have to be a licenced reloader? Perhaps anybody that does to B.R.R.C. (Burlington) can do this?

Thanks.
 
If you have any friends that load maybe they can help you out. I think it's a bit of a liability issue for others to reload for you.
 
You'll likely find someone who'll let you use their equipment to do it, but most would insist you do it yourself. That's the way I'd do it anyway, guide you through doing it yourself. I don't have any 308 dies, but if you want to buy me some and come to winnipeg, I've got a press here you can use :)
 
Ask around at your club, but don't expect to be allowed to shoot trace. Don't know Burlington's policy, but most ranges don't allow trace due a preceived fire hazard.
 
1) I am an amatuer at law subjects, but I would guess your liability would still be there if you were guiding someone, using your equipment, and everything went bad.

2) I thought it may even be illegal to shoot tracers. It is not legal to hunt with them and I thought I have seen where it is even illegal to shoot them anywhere.
 
According to the rules, that's a verboten topic.

The following topics will not be tolerated. Violation will result in immediate and permanent suspension. Some quasi legal/ grey/downright illegal examples that are specifically not tolerated are:

Shipping and driving items to Canada from the US that require US export permit.

Discharging firearms in places where firearms are not allowed to be discharged.

Manufacture or use of flammable and explosive substances or “tracer” projectiles.

Unblocking 5 rd magazines to regular capacity.

Swapping non-restricted barrel for restricted barrel at gun range.

Home made firearms with illegal or misleading markings. For example, marking a chunk of metal with "Valmet 78".

Solicitation of unregistered firearms or magazine kits.
 
Doug The Canuck said:
According to the rules, that's a verboten topic.

Manufacture or use of flammable and explosive substances or “tracer” projectiles.
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Just curious - if tracer bullets are legal to buy and sell (I presume they are, since they show up in EE all the time) - is there some restriction against loading and firing them or sumpthin? Enlighten me, please. :)

Thanks,
 
JohnC said:
people would let you use their press- but no one i know of would incur the potential liability of doing it for you.
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What a great society we live in eh... Noone will help a guy out 'cause there scared ####less of getting sued.
Gimme yer boolits... I'll load 'em.
I'm fairly certain and confident in my reloading ability that you won't get hurt.
Of course you'll hafta have a valid PAL in order to take possession of the loaded rounds :D

PM me.
 
now's a great time to learn to reload. Contrary to popular opinion, it's not expensive, time consuming or difficult. Grab a cheap press from the EE, or grab a $30 Lee press from WSS. Get a cheap set of Lee dies, should be around $20. You can use the volumetric scoop, or spend another $30 or so for a scale (Lee, naturally).

Altogether, you can get into a basic reloading setup for around $100 (or far more, if you wish, Lee is entry level kit but it does work perfectly).

By the time you've finished loading your tracers, you will have recouped the investment in equipment (as compared to buying loaded tracer)
 
brotherjack said:
Just curious - if tracer bullets are legal to buy and sell (I presume they are, since they show up in EE all the time) - is there some restriction against loading and firing them or sumpthin? Enlighten me, please. :)

Thanks,
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Tracers are legal to shoot, incendiary rounds are another story here in Canada. It all comes down to your range rules and reg's. Some may allow tracers and some may not.

From Wikipedia:

Tracer: These have a hollow back, filled with a flare material. Usually this is a mixture of magnesium perchlorate, and strontium salts to yield a bright red color, although other materials providing other colors have also sometimes been used. Tracer material burns out after a certain amount of time. Such ammunition is useful to the shooter as a means of verifying how close the point of aim is to the actual point of impact, and for learning how to point shoot moving targets with rifles. This type of round is also used by all branches of the United States military in combat environments as a signaling device to friendly forces. Normally it is loaded at a four to one ratio with ball ammunition and is intended to show where you are firing so friendly forces can engage the target as well. The flight characteristics of tracer rounds differ from normal bullets, decreasing in altitude sooner than other bullets, because of increased aerodynamic drag.

Incendiary: These bullets are made with an explosive or flammable mixture in the tip that is designed to ignite on contact with a target. The intent is to ignite fuel or munitions in the target area, thereby adding to the destructive power of the bullet itself.
 
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I think the forum rule in question is regarding 'home made' trace material, and not the commercially manufactured ones (which are perfectly legal, of course)
 
brotherjack said:
Just curious - if tracer bullets are legal to buy and sell (I presume they are, since they show up in EE all the time) - is there some restriction against loading and firing them or sumpthin? Enlighten me, please. :)

Thanks,
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This rule on cgn was put in place because of some jackass who came here 3 years ago and kept talking about making his own tracer bullets and exploding reactive targets using chemicals used as ingredients in products commonly available in most hardware stores.
 
"...even be illegal to shoot tracers..." Nope. It's just that some ranges don't allow them because they think they'll start a fire. Trace isn't made to start fires. In very dry conditions, they might if you're very unfortunate. There's nothing illegal about 'em though.
 
667 said --
What a great society we live in eh... Noone will help a guy out 'cause there scared s**tless of getting sued.
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It is sad, but this is what our society has evolved into. Lawyers run continuess ads, advertising for anyone who has been injured in any way where someone else may (or may not) be at least partly responsible, to contact them for a possible law suit monitary solution. Who can take a chance on being a good guy, if it could result in financial ruin?
I have heard too many horror stories of a friend suing a friend. (Former friend!)
 
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