Which SKS?
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The Russian ones are nice historical pieces - and reportedly better quality in fit and finish than the Chinese. I would shoot the Russian without hesitation, but I would take care of it as it's value is greater (or wil be) monetarily and historically than a Chinese. I ordered one just like many other CGN'ers here.
The Chinese are good if you want something to really shoot alot and need something for say a bush gun, or something that will get banged around/rough treatment. It will probably never become a valuable piece in your lifetime. I have a Chinese and like it. Works flawlessly.
The Yugo units are very nicely made. Definitely better fit and finish than the Chinese. I just got one, haven't shot it yet, but I'm impressed how much better it seems than the Chinese. Part of that feel probably comes from the Yugo hardwood stock, and parts seem not to rattle (tighter fitting parts?) like my Chinese.
They are all good. Just depends on what you plan to do with them. Get one of each if you can. You can always sell them later after you use them and decide which one to keep. They will probably not loose value, unless you bubba them. I wouldn't suggest bubba-ing a Yugo or Russian, that would be a real big no-no.
The Chinese are good if you want something to really shoot alot and need something for say a bush gun, or something that will get banged around/rough treatment. It will probably never become a valuable piece in your lifetime. I have a Chinese and like it. Works flawlessly.
The Yugo units are very nicely made. Definitely better fit and finish than the Chinese. I just got one, haven't shot it yet, but I'm impressed how much better it seems than the Chinese. Part of that feel probably comes from the Yugo hardwood stock, and parts seem not to rattle (tighter fitting parts?) like my Chinese.
They are all good. Just depends on what you plan to do with them. Get one of each if you can. You can always sell them later after you use them and decide which one to keep. They will probably not loose value, unless you bubba them. I wouldn't suggest bubba-ing a Yugo or Russian, that would be a real big no-no.
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i need to clarify your statement altho in general i agree with you regarding the quality of workmenship of the russian vs yugo vs chinese . you have to make a distinction whether its a (early) chinese SKS as oppose to (late) norinco SKS .
as you can see in my earlier pic , i have all 4 and the yugo is not better made then the chinese but better made than the norinco .
norinco SKS are commercially produced for export while the chinese SKS was made for thier army use.
thanks D , i forgot about the wood , all the wood from china and i had recently 4 rifles and 2 spare stocks are crap , no matter early or late. the yugo has very nice hard wood , however cant beat the russian laminated , its the best.
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from my own experience , my 65 had a long lug threaded barrel and my 67 had a short lug threaded barrel so you can see china have started in the late 60s to make manufacturing more economical.
all SKS barrel made in china up to 1967 are threaded , thereafter there was a gradual transition towards pinned barrel , however due to the large number of factories making SKS they did not move together so to answer your question , majority of the norinco are pinned barrel and majority of the early chinese are threaded but some could also be pinned .
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i own one of each, and both preform on par with each other. ive been especially shooting my norc ALOT lately at the range as a cheap plinker. why wait 6 months to shoot to save 11 bucks? buy the norc, and if it sucks, sell it. you'll have 6 months to make a few extra bucks and get something else if you dont like it.
So which is better, and why, Russian or Norc (pinned or threaded barrel -I hear all kinds of opinions, but not many reasons - ie: facts)? I've a line on a new Norc SKS, the dealer says: threaded, chrome lined barrel, blade bayonet, apparently made on Russian equipment to Russian design specs by Norinco. $180.00. Does that sound good, or not and why? I'm going to just use it for plinking, target practice.
Thanks,
shootablity wise , there is not much of a difference in the early chinese , norinco or the russian . not much difference between the threaded and the pinned barrel . i have heard the yugo with the non-chrome are better but thats another $400 story .
as i mention in the 70s china started to make the pinned barrel and obviously shootability wise it must had been the same or they wouldnt have issued some of them to their own army . in 81 the SKS was removed from combat.
I've a line on a new Norc SKS, the dealer says: threaded, chrome lined barrel, blade bayonet, apparently made on Russian equipment to Russian design specs by Norinco. $180.00. Does that sound good, or not and why? I'm going to just use it for plinking, target practice.
Thanks,
sir ... where you live?
sounds like an early chinese , blade bayo tells me it was made earlier than 1966 , same russian equipment then its made at factory 26 . JUST DONT STAND THERE MAN !!!! GRAB IT ,
and if the deal with norseman falls thru, i'll take it .
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Yeah, no bull. I e-mailed John at Marstar , asked him about the $139.00 SKS Type 56 and he said nothing is coming in the foreseeable future, so I figured I'd pursue other avenues.
CURTTON:
"the yugo is not better made then the chinese but better made than the norinco " May I suggest you review the examples out that, there is absolutely no way to compare the Yug M-59 or the M-59/66 family with Chinese SKS....
"norinco SKS are commercially produced for export while the chinese SKS was made for thier army use."
How did you arrive at this tidbit of information, I would suggest you review your information....Except for very few made for an importer in the USA Norinco SKS rifles were simply refurbished military guns.... In some cases the ones that had 16 in barrels were refitted with longer ones....
In the intenational arms market the Yugoslav SKS are recognized as being the top of the line, check it out.
Regards
John
"the yugo is not better made then the chinese but better made than the norinco " May I suggest you review the examples out that, there is absolutely no way to compare the Yug M-59 or the M-59/66 family with Chinese SKS....
"norinco SKS are commercially produced for export while the chinese SKS was made for thier army use."
How did you arrive at this tidbit of information, I would suggest you review your information....Except for very few made for an importer in the USA Norinco SKS rifles were simply refurbished military guns.... In some cases the ones that had 16 in barrels were refitted with longer ones....
In the intenational arms market the Yugoslav SKS are recognized as being the top of the line, check it out.
Regards
John
i dont have to check it out john cos im looking right at them now. the quality of work on my early chinese SKS is much better than my yugo M59/66 (wood excluded) but the M59/66 is better than my norinco SKS-D as i stated above... i cant speak for the M59 cos i dont have one but i have heard its better made.
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i dont have to check it out john cos im looking right at them now. the quality of work on my early chinese are much better than my yugo M59/66 (wood excluded) , i dont have the M59 to compare to but i have heard that the M59 are better made.
I agree curtton, That yugo M59/66 looks like crap, You should send it to me
Ill pay the shipping
yes, a factory 26 1965 , sometime in the mid year they switched from blade to spike bayo.
I agree curtton, That yugo M59/66 looks like crap, You should send it to me
Ill pay the shipping
oh you soooo generous to offer shipping ,
i already sent you a SKS and you still want more? what are you up to i wonder?
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its been well known that majority of the SKS from china in recent years are made for the commercial market , they are not ex-military but i will read a couple of lines from a book titled THE SKS CARBINE by steve kehara and joe poyer .
on page 6, "chinese-made sks carbines appeared in the US as early as 1986. they were first imported for commercial sale by norinco and later china sports. early carbines were primarily ex-military weapons (type 56) that had been refinished. when the supply of these began to run low , new, civilian version were produced and exported to the US".
on page 111, " while many of the chinese sks carbines in the united states in recent years were built for the civilian market ," .
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