Norinc an Investment?

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Hey Guys.

I am just curious. I have an M14 that I have spent some good coin on upgrading with a USI Stock, ARMS 18 mount, camo paint etc, but I am beginning to see some nice M14s in th EE and I want to get your opinions on getting another. I am not looking for smart arse comments, even though I would probably give one myself :D, but I am seriously trying to decide if I can justify it to the wife and my wallet. I do not need to be sold on a Norcs quality, but will they jump in value in the next few years? I would love the priviledge of being able to shoot one/store one.
 
I think they will , once/if the source drys up. Look at the SKS-d's you could by them new for $175ish a couple of years back and I had a hell of a time getting $150 for my used one 2 years back , now you see used ones going for $350+
 
investment? i don't know about that, but it should retain its value if taken care of. spending money on upgrades does not always mean good returns no matter what make/manufacturer. some exceptions of course.

take care of it and enjoy shooting it, that is all.
 
aka-jdub said:
investment? i don't know about that, but it should retain its value if taken care of. spending money on upgrades does not always mean good returns no matter what make/manufacturer. some exceptions of course.

take care of it and enjoy shooting it, that is all.
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What if you shot one and stored another unshot? Does it become more valuable?
 
As long as no more go into production...... I would say in 5 to 10 years an "in the grease norc m14s" would increase by say 30% minimum..... from it's average price now...... so say 450.00 + 150.00 = 600.00 5 to 10 years from now....... that's my guess anyways.

BUT apparently there will be a new m14s on the u.s. market soon... from norinco usa .... not the same as norinco china. Not sure if they will be importable nor at what kinda price. I occasionally see the topic pop up on firinline and another popular u.s AR site.
 
i agree that production dictates value. so long as they keep them rolling off the lines prices should plane out. if production drops or stops that is when you may hit pay dirt. i don't see norinco slowing down production in the near future, nor any other manufacturer for that matter.
if i were looking into a possible investment gun which i'm not (i like to shoot them) i'd look into low production handguns or hard to get rifles. one rifle that comes to mind is the pof .308 but i am by no means close to being a expert.
 
In the grease, unfired - yes, I'd say they will increase in value, particularly if production ends.

A version that you've spend a lot of money on upgrading are never an "investment". You won't even get your money back.
 
why not? guys are selling them now for 600-800$ on the EE and in the US (not relevant due to laws, i know) the norincos/polytechs are still going up in price every 6 months or so....
 
aka-jdub said:
i don't see norinco slowing down production in the near future,
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If I remember correctly, which I sometimes do, Norinco has not built an M-14 since 1994 and doesn't even have the machine tooling anymore. The rifles that you are buying now are being sold to Canadians because you are one of the few countries in the world where they are legal to own and import.
 
Norc as investment?

Quick check on Marstars sight shows them still at $399. They have been this price for a few years now. Dont compare U.S. prices. Hard to say what China/Norinco might do in the future, but to answer your question about Norinco as an "investment" , I'd say shoot the hell out of the one you have and buy another for the future, but burying $399 in the ground will be about same investment value I think IMHO.

Geoff in Victoria
 
45ACPKING said:
As long as no more go into production...... I would say in 5 to 10 years an "in the grease norc m14s" would increase by say 30% minimum..... from it's average price now...... so say 450.00 + 150.00 = 600.00 5 to 10 years from now....... that's my guess anyways.

BUT apparently there will be a new m14s on the u.s. market soon... from norinco usa .... not the same as norinco china. Not sure if they will be importable nor at what kinda price. I occasionally see the topic pop up on firinline and another popular u.s AR site.
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I have always wondered about that, how the whole norinco USA thing is going to work.

I think alot of people in the states are hoping for the 399$ M14s that we get up here, when in fact they'll get an M14s, but it won't be made in china. With that being said its going to be probably 1000$ because we have a higher minimum wage here in north america compared to the 5$ a day a chinese worker gets paid in the norinco plant.

I wonder if they are going to be doing forged recievers/parts like the chinese ones, or will they cheap out and do cast parts due to the higher cost of labor?
Just some thoughts.
 
For the very last time, M305 is not M14. As a shooter, Yes. As a collectible, forget it.
 
c'mon guys, forget that whole investment thing. Make your money elsewhere, buying one rifle and keeping it will not make you wealthy enough, you will still have to work (my guess).
 
aka-jdub said:
i'd almost consider ammo as a investment these days :(
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Yup with the rising costs of precious metals they'll just keep going up. I always stock up to the point of being worried about my rear shocks when driving home when there's a sale on 12g target loads. Last buy (january) i bought 8 cases of 12g remington 1-1/8oz shot. That's 2000 rounds. Got about 750 left.
I also go big on the .22lr buying 10,000 at a time from accuracy plus. Good deals all day long there.

Mike Oxbig
 
Who would have thought that the $175.00 Garands would be going for $600 and way up about 15 years later. I should have bought a family pack of 4 IIRC at that time.
 
What Silverback said.
I remember the Swedish Mausers stacked like cordwood on the floor of Lever Arms, for (IIRC) 60 bux each. I did buy a 6-pack of Ljungman AG42b's. I think the box and guns were $600. Me and a buddy carried that box all over Vancouver one day before taking the bus back to the ferry.
Of course I sold them at $125 each within the week.
 
Our old friends, greed and fear. I think the fact that everybody believes that the next time the LPC is elected, we will lose semi-auto military type rifles has been a big factor in people rabidly hoarding these things.
 
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