X2 ..... Not to mention that these sealed rounds would have been full of air where there isn't any powder, now fill the tank up with water and muck, and it becomes elementary physics, those cases collapsed because they just plain couldn't hold the weight of all the other stuff when they were designed to hold atmospheric pressures and not much else. IF there had been any sort of explosion on the inside of the tank, you would expect the interior to be in a MUCH worse shape that it is in ... If there had been an explosion anywhere near the outside, you'd see some bulging, which there is none. I blame that "crack" on poor quality Russians steel made in times of war, and the lack of "modern" metallurgy. As others have stated, it's entirely plausible that this is a stress fracture made by the natural flexing of the steel as the tank was rolled over/dragged out of the mud. Only way to really find out is to take a microscope to it and see how much it oxydised.
Another WW2 Russian tank from bog
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Hmm... I wouldn't have minded a better look at the "tracks" on that redhead!!
Thiss one?
Me to!!
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- land of f-cktards
I still think it was an indirect explosion or burst of pressure. Shell casings can take more than what has been suggested. I have to say really how deep do you think this tank was? Atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi at sea level and for every 10 feet of fresh water you get and additional 4.3 to 4.4 psi increase in pressure. I think ice could be a plausible answer as well as a shell burst.
If poor Russian steel is an issue, then we all better scrap our WWII dated mosins. Could be from the haul out of the bog, or perhaps it's a bulgle from a shell burst?? We'll never really know.
Pete
If poor Russian steel is an issue, then we all better scrap our WWII dated mosins. Could be from the haul out of the bog, or perhaps it's a bulgle from a shell burst?? We'll never really know.
Pete
serious question on the subject. How is it that we keep finding all these russian tanks in bogs anyways? Really...were their drivers so crappy? I can't believe that. But really..whats the reason?
Fricken sweet!
I bet it would still work fine.
Looks almost like the last batch of Hungarian surplus I got last summer.
Tank Commander tells you where to go.
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Fricken sweet!
I bet it would still work fine.
Looks almost like the last batch of Hungarian surplus I got last summer.
Tank Commander tells you where to go.
I think the bog ammo is cleaner.
Yeah the tank commander can't see well in battle either. Imagine trying to talk with a guns and artillery going off. Then combine that with someone telling you where to drive, trying to operate the clutch... I would imagine this was a regular occurance.
Even with todays hi tech gears & technology, a section of USMC M1 tanks & AAVs drove themselves right into an Iraqi sewer bog in broad day light during the Battle of Nasiriyah in 2003. They were trapped there under intense enemy fire for most of the day and ended up abandoning 2 AFVs in the bog. Mishaps like this is not uncommon under battle conditions and fog of war.
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How do they find these...
I have seen a similar recuperation exercise and the clue came from a kid in the village who remembered he had seen tank track leading to a nearby lake and never saw the exit track...many years later he shared his observation and somehow by curiosity, villagers found a perfectly preserved T34...down that trail leading into the lake...
I iwll check for the pic and post...
I have seen a similar recuperation exercise and the clue came from a kid in the village who remembered he had seen tank track leading to a nearby lake and never saw the exit track...many years later he shared his observation and somehow by curiosity, villagers found a perfectly preserved T34...down that trail leading into the lake...
I iwll check for the pic and post...
I hear that some of the stories are from the old timers telling of the battles near buy. Locals heard from the soldiers who survived. etc. This pales by comparison to what's on Youtube in Russian WWII Messerschmidt's in the Russian back 40, skulls, ammo, etc...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ZDOADQViM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLN2cz2k7_g&feature=related
Focke Wulf 190 recovery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nnc0C71vbtA&feature=related
We all know this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhK1eXDAfgQ&feature=related
recovery of a GMC CCKW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dszN6LmfXT4&feature=related
Search of military relics at the help of a magnet, No really. Anyone got a cottage??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNos9g1RHps&feature=related
I think this is a Focke Wulf in a Russian Forest..Holly crap!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUwF2FRQmIU&feature=related
German related items in a wet bunker in a lost forest...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo2eQC3t_nM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izr1pGseU6o&NR=1
I know Russians still hate Germany and Germans, but wow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_lUnusvQ28&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9pcsOJeNBw&feature=related
Too much to find in Europe...
TRANSLATION:
On June, 17-18th, 2008 the Youth public organization « Kiev Club of the Red Star » organized & lead, in the Cherkassk area, the excavation of a T-34-76tank. Raising the tank required a long and laborious exercise over several months requiring legal registration and technical training. Government Institutions of the Cherkassk area and Federal Government rendered assistance.
On June, 17-18th, 2008 the Youth public organization « Kiev Club of the Red Star » organized & lead, in the Cherkassk area, the excavation of a T-34-76tank. Raising the tank required a long and laborious exercise over several months requiring legal registration and technical training. Government Institutions of the Cherkassk area and Federal Government rendered assistance.
