Tactical scope under 650$
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We have an order of Falcon Menace 4.5-18x56 coming in this week. They will take the abuse that a .338 Lapua will hand out and the price is sub $500.
It is true, you get what you pay for, and that is usually a name. There are many $1000 plus scopes out there that won't handle your gun. I am confident this one will. If the scope fails because of recoil, send it back for a full refund. If you have any doubts to the quality of these scopes do a search on this forum, snipers hide or snipercentral. You will find that 99% of the people that own them are very happy. You can't please everyone right?
It is true, you get what you pay for, and that is usually a name. There are many $1000 plus scopes out there that won't handle your gun. I am confident this one will. If the scope fails because of recoil, send it back for a full refund. If you have any doubts to the quality of these scopes do a search on this forum, snipers hide or snipercentral. You will find that 99% of the people that own them are very happy. You can't please everyone right?
Not to start #### but I have seen the difference between Falcon and Leupold, Nightforce, US Optics, Schmidt and Bender etc. You do get what you pay for and it's not just the name. It's the quality, warranty, tested and proven under extreme conditions, dependability etc...You are selling the scopes, what are going to say, they are crap, of course not.
Agree about them not being on par with the big boys. but....
Something to also keep in mind is that the glass on the 4-14x 44mm FFP scope is better than the varmint. 94 percent light transmission vs 92 for the varmint. That 94 percent brings it pretty close to the big boys. The 4-14x is also more suitable as a "tactical" scope (see reviews on Mel's).
Before putting in an order I read everything I could find about these scopes. I then asked a number of people who's opinions I trusted and who also own NF, Leupold Zeiss etc. They aren't as good as the top level scopes. But they are considered very good and their price/performance ratio is very high. When NF, Leupold and Zeiss owners say they are good. Then you know they won't suck.
Personally I'm not interested in the 18x varmint scope until the glass is on par or better than the FFP. Also I'd like to see a 50mm objective and those extra 2x. At that point the Falcon Menace varmint scopes might start to be used on my varmint/target scopes instead of the Zeiss conquest. We'll see.
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For the money the Menace is decent glass. Is it in the same league as NF, especially at real long range ? Not a chance.
But then again at 2 or 3 times the $$ there should be a noticeable difference, and there is.
Owning a few, building many and selling as many as I can get, 338 lapuas are not cheap to feed, 50s are even worse for feed costs, to skimp on a scope for an expensive to feed caliber makes little sense to me.
If the plan is to "really" make use of what these calibers are capable of crystal clear 100% repeatable optics are required.
But then again at 2 or 3 times the $$ there should be a noticeable difference, and there is.
Owning a few, building many and selling as many as I can get, 338 lapuas are not cheap to feed, 50s are even worse for feed costs, to skimp on a scope for an expensive to feed caliber makes little sense to me.
If the plan is to "really" make use of what these calibers are capable of crystal clear 100% repeatable optics are required.
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Bushnell Elite 4200 Tactical Mil-Dot
Just grabbed one from Le Barons for $650.00
Just grabbed one from Le Barons for $650.00
Bushnell Elite 4200 Tactical Mil-Dot
Just grabbed one from Le Barons for $650.00
1- If you plan to shoot really long range, you better check the elevation range..........
2- In addition to that, eye relief is really too short to put on a boomer.
3- No way it will stand .50 BMG or even .338LM recoil.
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I didn't say they were better than the scopes you mentioned, but they are better than some of the scopes that cost more money. You are absolutely right that you do get what you pay for. But that doesn't mean that if you pay less money you are getting a POS scope. You might not be getting the optical clarity you would get from something more expensive, but with the Falcon line you are getting something that will get the job done every time without fail.
Would I use a Falcon under combat conditions if my life depended on it? Can't say for sure. Would I feel condident punching paper at 1000yds for bragging rights at the range? Absolutely.
You are right, I sell them, so I wouldn't say they are crap. But I also wouldn't sell them if they were crap. We have sold over 200 of these in the last year and a half and only about three have come back with legitimate manufacturers defects and every one was replaced, no questions asked, under the five year warranty that comes with every scope.
I have no problem with people saying you get what you pay for, but when it is used in a tone that implies everything under $1000 is POS I get a little defensive.
Anyway, it really doesn't matter what I think. The comments on this board, Snipercentral and Sniper's Hide speak loud enough to the quality of these scopes. Yes, there are some who say they are crap because they wanted to spend $400-500 and get the same quality they would get for $1500-2000, but those people will never be happy.
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Can I ask how you can make a statement like that? From experience?? Not likely.
Anyone who has ACTUALLY shot a 50 BMG knows that the recoil is highly blown out of proportion by those who have never fired 1, most 338 Lapuas have brakes so they also have rather mild recoil compared to many other calibers. Though not a great fan of Bushnel, they will certainly take the recoil from either of these calibers with no problem.
I build 338 Lapuas, 50s and BIGGER for a living, and have likely fired more 50 cal ammo from 50 BMG bolt action rifles over the last 40 years than anyone else in Canada so believe I have enough experience to question your statement.
I suspect that I probably own more 50 cal rifles "personally" than anyone else in Canada and I KNOW the only outfit that has more 50 cal ammo, and loading components in Canada, than I do, is the DND.
Understand I am not bragging here, just stating facts that can be easily verified, it irritates me when I see information posted that is nothing more than male bovine manure.
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I hope so, just ordered one 4-14X44FFP
Buster i own 1 Menace and i have 2 more on the way...i also own a NF and a Leupold MK4...and no question the latter have superior glass, however, for what i use it for it's performance is absolutely spot on...i've used it in a heavy rain too got totally drenched and it performed just like it should...and for a 1/3 of the cost of my other scopes i can't help but fall in love with it...now if i stretched the range to 1000 yards i think i would start to notice more serious differences but up to 550 yards which is what i'm limited to now i honestly can't complain about a single thing. They are sweet scopes for the price i think you're really going to enjoy it.
