Advice: Glock Vs S&W

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Hey I'm new around here. Got my pal a few weeks ago, and bought a 10/22 Ruger. Now i'm looking to get my first pistol. I was at my local gun store and was advised to purchase a S&W M&P 9mm as a first gun. Later that week I was shooting a Glock (dont know the exact model, but i think it was a .45). I really liked the glock.

Then i found this site - CanadaAmmo

And on the front page they have the S&W 9mm and .40 and Glock 9mm and .45 all for 599.99 each.

My local gun store had the S&W 9mm for 659.99 +taxes. Dont know about the other models

So now I dont know what to buy. Or if to even buy from this site (Canadaammo.com) Same price for a .40/.45 and a 9mm. 9mm sounds cheaper (ammo) and .40 sounds nicer, hahaha, more BOOM. Everyone I talk to says go with a small cal for a first pistol, so i'm really leaning towards the 9mm. And I'm also thinking the Glock.

So now that I answered my own questions, I just need to know about this Canadaammo site. Shipping time? free shipping, so thats nice.

S&W M&P 9mm
S&W M&P .40
Glock G17
Glock G22


Some advice would be great!
thanks in advance

Matt
 
Canada Ammo is good to go. I suggest you stick with cheaper calibers like 9mm. As far as make and model, you seem to have your mind made up.

TDC
 
9mm Glock.

I've shot both the Glock and the M&P.
I preferred the glock.

In fact I'll probably be looking at getting one soon as well. Even though I generally like stainless steel pistols better.
The Glock is just hard to beat. It points well, shoots well, functions well and the trigger is decent with a trigger job.

The M&P is similiar. For me the European styled stuff has always fit me better. Try out both at a gun store. Dry fire them a bit and see which one you like better.

Good luck. Let us know what you decide and why.
 
Get a Glock! Don't let people tell you to avoid real calibers either, a 45acp is great, and costs less than factory 9mm if you reload. My glock 21sf, is a great gun. A lot easier on brass than other models of glocks.
 
Although I really like the fit and feel of the M&P, the Glock is the way to go, get the G17 you cannot go wrong with it. In many opinions it is the perfect and best all around pistol.
 
bylogic said:
Here is another opinion about Glock:

http://www.theprepared.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=479


bylogic
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Don't waste your time on that thread. I've shot with hundreds of Glock shooters now. I've never heard of anyone having a kaboom. I've owned four Glocks myself and never had a problem with a single one. From compact frame to the full size frame. They're not exceptional pistols, you wont buy one and think "what a work of art!" No, it's simple, functional and extremely reliable. They're brilliantly simple and I far prefer them over the S&W M&P. I also do not like the S&W M&P trigger. Hinges are for doors and cabinets, not triggers. However, to prove I'm not a Glock fan boy, my all time favourite pistol is a Beretta 92. Maybe a Walther P99 if I ever get one. (So far I've only fired a mag through one.)

I do recommend going with 9mm. It's cheaper and the recoil isn't as nasty as .40S&W A bunch of guys I shoot with on a regular basis swear by .40 but they all shoot like #### and basically I figured out they just like bigger holes in the paper but are too cheap or wimpy to go to .45 ACP. Also, don't underestimate the incredible amount of cheap shooting joy a .22lr pistol can give you in life.

In regards to kabooms. A kaboom is when a Glock explodes. Kabooms occur only when you chamber a round, do not fire it, rack the slide to eject the round and chamber that same round again, repeat this many times. What occurs is you eventually warp the shape of the catridge forcing the projectile deeper into the brass. This occurs most often with law enforcement officers, at the beginning of a shift chamber a round and at the end of the shift, drop the mag and eject the unfired round placing back into the magazine in the first position so that piece of ammunition is chambered again. The Glock goes unfired for the night so once again this occurs until finally that piece of ammunition makes it to the range and if chambered, rechambered enough times and warped enough, it is no longer uniform size and COULD cause a kaboom. Kabooms are extremely rare, it's not like buying a Chrysler and knowing "Yes, I WILL have to replace the head gasket."
 
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I would lean towards the Glock as well. Parts and accessories are easily found. The added bonus is that you can get an Advantage Arms .22lr kit for it. I had a M&P 9 and it wasn't a bad pistol but I shot the G17 better and preferred it so I sold it after putting a few boxes of ammo through it. Definitely try and handle them at a gun store to see how they feel in your hands. BTW, welcome to the 'hood.....
 
M&P is the way to go...Glock is so 80's :)

It looks nicer, has a lot better ergonomics, way better sights, tighter chamber around 6 o'clock, ambi slide release = superior gun
 
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IM_Lugger said:
M&P is the way to go...Glock is so 80's :)

It looks nicer, has a lot better ergonomics, way better sights, tighter chamber around 6 o'clock, ambi slide release = superior gun
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Looks are irrelevant if you don't hit what you're aiming at and serve no purpose. Sights can be changed(and should be). The increase in chamber support is insignificant. The ambi slide LOCK is great for those who have no training.

TDC
 
From a re-loaders viewpoint.
Glocks don't always digest reloads.
Glocks do not fully support the casing, moot on factory ammo, is an issue for reloads.
M&P eats anything I put thru it.
M&P has full case support.

Mind you the Glock is a very fine pistol, but if you intend to reload, the M&P has the advantage.
 
Griffoneur said:
From a re-loaders viewpoint.
Glocks don't always digest reloads.
Glocks do not fully support the casing, moot on factory ammo, is an issue for reloads.
M&P eats anything I put thru it.
M&P has full case support.

Mind you the Glock is a very fine pistol, but if you intend to reload, the M&P has the advantage.
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I currently have a Glock 17, but am looking around for another 9mm that can digest lead as well. I have had reliability issues with it in regard to some handloads...so, have stuck to relatively snappy ones. As far as non-support of the casing though, I recall seeing somewhere (please don't ask me where) that this was only an issue with the larger than 9mm Glocks...is that correct? And that handloads were to be considered verboten with them, but alright with the 9mm. Any info on that? Finally, does the M&P digest lead with no glitches?
 
Chuckbuster said:
I currently have a Glock 17, but am looking around for another 9mm that can digest lead as well. I have had reliability issues with it in regard to some handloads...so, have stuck to relatively snappy ones. As far as non-support of the casing though, I recall seeing somewhere (please don't ask me where) that this was only an issue with the larger than 9mm Glocks...is that correct? And that handloads were to be considered verboten with them, but alright with the 9mm. Any info on that? Finally, does the M&P digest lead with no glitches?
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I read somewhere that Glock will dishonor the garantee if you shoot "reloads"... don't flame me, this is going back a long ways... maybe do a Google on the subject.

My M&P uses 175gr SWC cast bullets with 4.8gr Titgegroup. I cast "wheelweights" with no added tin. I clean the barrel with Butch's Bore Shine, brush and patches and a bore snake. Comes clean as a whistle.
 
Griffoneur said:
I read somewhere that Glock will dishonor the garantee if you shoot "reloads"... don't flame me, this is going back a long ways... maybe do a Google on the subject.
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The manual says not to use reloads. I know people who do shoot reloads, they're not a problem. The issue comes when you're not using jacketed ammunition, the lead builds up in the rifling. Keep in mind the rifling in the glock barrel is polygonal. Check out this link from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygonal_rifling
 
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