Powder bought in USA

I bought a reloading press in the us, and I got stoped by the USBP, the only thing they asked is Firearm and ammunition.
 
Canada Customs allows a Canadian to bring a maximum of 8Kg's of black powder per trip into Canada from the USA. It must be in 1 pound containers, not bulk. Now, I did my homework by stopping and asking two US Customs officials about exporting from the US into Canada....black powder. I was advised there was no US export restriction. I kept notes and names in case I was stopped and asked by US officials. It would be interesting to have an official of the US Customs and/or export officials give an informed opinion here. No one wants to break any laws in another country.
 
It is not always about saving money. I am 20 mins from the border and their is a lot more selection and availability to be had a short drive into the US.

I was in the US (GrandForks N.D.) in July ,go there all the time ,maybe 6-8 times a year (visit Cabelas,Scheels) and have never seen US customs checking cars going into Canada.
This time ,300 yards before the Canadian border ,there was a blockade ,lights flashing ,guys directing traffic at a checkstop.US CUSTOMS !!
Asked us if we had more than $10,000 in US cash ,guns, ammo etc.Took off my sun glasses and said...

NOPE !

Stared me in the eyes.....and told me to proceed.

These guys have no sense of ha,ha.

Just takes once !


BB
 
I was in the US (GrandForks N.D.) in July ,go there all the time ,maybe 6-8 times a year (visit Cabelas,Scheels) and have never seen US customs checking cars going into Canada.
This time ,300 yards before the Canadian border ,there was a blockade ,lights flashing ,guys directing traffic at a checkstop.US CUSTOMS !!
Asked us if we had more than $10,000 in US cash ,guns, ammo etc.Took off my sun glasses and said...

NOPE !

Stared me in the eyes.....and told me to proceed.

These guys have no sense of ha,ha.

Just takes once !


BB


This is what they do... there are folks here who've gotten nabbed with scopes or mounts when they were verboten... So hey if you are asking the question you've gotten the answer if you choose to do your own thing don't come crying to us... We collectively are not sympathetic to those who do stupid things... (well except those that slice off the side of a finger, get kicked in the nuts by a horse or things of that nature)
 
...I did my homework by stopping and asking two US Customs officials about exporting from the US into Canada....black powder. I was advised there was no US export restriction. I kept notes and names in case I was stopped and asked by US officials. It would be interesting to have an official of the US Customs and/or export officials give an informed opinion here. No one wants to break any laws in another country.

That is exactly what I did. I checked out the Canadian regs regarding importing first. While crossing into the States, I asked the US customs officer about bringing back reloading supplies & shooting accessories his reply was: "You're not bringing back an actual gun, are you?" I said no, just powder, primers, projectiles, gun parts, holsters that type of thing. To which he simply replied "No problem then - why should I care about that stuff? Heck, every dollar you come down here and spend helps out our economy - and goodness knows we need it! Have a pleasant stay!" There were two of them at my window and I wrote down both of their names in case of trouble on the way home (never needed it - no trouble) and that was that.

TFC
 
To answer "Shootist22-250" ... I don't know where you buy your black powder but I would have to pay $30.00 to $32.00 per pound at last check. I buy it in the USA...same brand, for $12.95. That's about $550.00 here and about $225.00 there for the 16 one pound tins. Dave
 
That is exactly what I did. I checked out the Canadian regs regarding importing first. While crossing into the States, I asked the US customs officer about bringing back reloading supplies & shooting accessories his reply was: "You're not bringing back an actual gun, are you?" I said no, just powder, primers, projectiles, gun parts, holsters that type of thing. To which he simply replied "No problem then - why should I care about that stuff? Heck, every dollar you come down here and spend helps out our economy - and goodness knows we need it! Have a pleasant stay!" There were two of them at my window and I wrote down both of their names in case of trouble on the way home (never needed it - no trouble) and that was that.

TFC
He is misinformed. However your out with DHS was that your did some due diligence. Call DHS, and State for the real answer.
 
I have personaly had the pleasure of a DHS checkpoint inspection, and as stated, these folks take their jobs very seriously. As I waited my turn I had a very good preview of their thoroughness on the family ahead of me. I had nothing in my possesion to worry about. There's not enough words in the English language to get yourself out of ju-ju with these people when it comes to that point.

That is what you will be paying someone else to do for you.
 
pre 9-11 an older gentleman friend was stopped about half a km away from the cdn border at a roadblock and was told it was his lucky day. he was given the option of trying to return the goods immediately..like turn around RFN.. (the store was 45 min away and near closing time) or surrender the purchase..various reloading components around $125.00 .


post 9-11 who knows the likelihood of charges? worth it?

spin the wheel i guess.
 
We all know its illegal to import powder/ammo etc from the US. Has anyone ever heard of anyone being stopped at the Border and getting caught with ammo etc and being charged?


Navy Gunner

yep

i also know of guys who have bought things off of ebay and have tried to cross the border and have been turned back for braking US Law. seems HLS tracks stuff sent in the mail.
 
pre 9-11 an older gentleman friend was stopped about half a km away from the cdn border at a roadblock and was told it was his lucky day. he was given the option of trying to return the goods immediately..like turn around RFN.. (the store was 45 min away and near closing time) or surrender the purchase..various reloading components around $125.00 .


post 9-11 who knows the likelihood of charges? worth it?

spin the wheel i guess.


So pre 9-11 it was illegal for a non US citizen to possess ammo in the US and transport it to Canada?


Navy Gunner
 
components only ...no assembled ammo. and apparently so. that is what the US customs guy said. (pre DHS) not like an argument would have helped the situation at the time lol.. i didnt know about their laws back then either... i got all my stuff down there at the time too.

the vendors dont really care either..as long as it wont trail back to them knowingly selling to an alien. they probably wont help you out. way back then one said to me, knowing i was a canuck.. looked me in the eye and said, " you know, cash is good...yup.. its american cash.... everyones cash looks the same...know what i mean?"
 
Pre 911

Pre 9-11 imported lots of components , never a problem. Stopped more than once by US Border patrol never lied always told exactly what I had purchased.
Ist time taking 5000 38 spl brass down to be reloaded by NBC in Ohio , I stopped US side to inquire if any problem doing this , Customs fellow said didn't know pull around bring in a few casings and he'd call Washington and check. Don't know who he called but after 10 minutes on the phone said only concern was were they being left permantly in US or being returned to Canada. I said when shipped back they would be taken back to Canada. No problem go ahead.

supermag
 
Pre-9/11, nobody cared. Now, however, exporting components requires the U.S. expoprt permit.
"...bought powder and brass, primers, I declared them and no questions asked..." You viloated U.S. laws. Our Customs types don't enforce U.S. laws. The U.S. Homeland Security types have been known to do random spot checks of vehicles leaving the U.S. You got lucky. If you had been stopped, you would have been arrested, charged(as would whoever sold the components to you) and denied further entry to the States, forever.
 
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