non-prohib FAL?

[Davy Crockett]

I seem to recall reading about a FAL variant(?) that was not prohib, rare as hen's teeth and priced up in the stratosphere.

Is this a figment of my imagination or does such a thing actually exist and if so where can I get info on it?????

 

[m39a2]

Yes! It was a straight pull single shot made in Austrailia. It had no magazine houseing cut out of the upper reciever and no gas operation.

Scott

 

[space_ace]

Yes! It was a straight pull single shot made in Austrailia. It had no magazine houseing cut out of the upper reciever and no gas operation.

Scott

Dare I ask then what the hell is the point? All it is is a gun that sort of resembles and FAL but not really and doesn't function the same at all. There are no non-prohib FN FALs, variants or anything that remotely resembles one. If you want to shoot a semi "black gun" in .308 you're left with the M-14 or the AR-10 that's it.

 

[m39a2]

The lower reciever was unmodified, the upper was built for some sort of large bore competitionso that non militery members od the A.N.R.A. could shoot in the military target matches. Is is a Fn FAL Varient and it is non restricted!!!

Scott

 

[gallen270]

Dare I ask then what the hell is the point? All it is is a gun that sort of resembles and FAL but not really and doesn't function the same at all. There are no non-prohib FN FALs, variants or anything that remotely resembles one. If you want to shoot a semi "black gun" in .308 you're left with the M-14 or the AR-10 that's it.

im waiting for norinco to step in and fix that like they did with the M14

 

[maxim08]

Don't want to dampen the enthusiasim, but...
I had /have a FALO. One of 40 built in Herstal with semi only receivers. Mine is # 039.
A few years of wrangling - with Canada's leading firearms tech on my side - ended with a prohib ruling. FAL variant. End of (sad) story.
Regards,
John

 

[Davy Crockett]

Yes! It was a straight pull single shot made in Austrailia. It had no magazine houseing cut out of the upper reciever and no gas operation.

Scott

hmm....that wasn't what I was thinking of but I guess I was mistaken anyways. I thought it was an FN CAR or something.

I'll just go back to being confused.

 

[sunray]

"...and it is non restricted!!!..." Right. It's prohibited. As is any variant or modified version of it.

 

[m39a2]

But this one is not prohibited, it is NON RESTRICTED!!!
Just another little hole in the system.

Scott

 

[Armedsask]

But this one is not prohibited, it is NON RESTRICTED!!!
Just another little hole in the system.

Scott

Prove it.

 

[shortandlong]

I have heard rumors of serveral people having non prohib FN because they were registered mistakenly I would not keep my hopes up to try to transfer them and since they were prohib'd by name and not by common sense I would not want to try to fight it.

 

[m39a2]

I will attempt to get a hold of the new owner of this rifle and get a copy of the registration. I did see the registration that the now deceased owner had and under class was listed Non Restricted.
It is not strictly a version of an FN, as the lower is just spare parts and there fore not controlled. The rifle used the same bolt and carrier, different barrel, no gas system and target sights of some description. The reciever had no ability to take a magazine and was only machined to have a feed ramp, no mag housing. It still had one recoil spring instead of two and when you pulled back the cocking leaver the action was automatically locked open. You simply placed a cartridge on the feed ramp and pushed down on the hold open catch, the bolt slammed forward, chambering the round and once the trigger was pulled and the round fired, you reefed back on the action and repeated the whole thing again. It was really quite neat. I think if I remember the owner once told me he was aware of perhaps two or three in Canada.

Scott

 

[chanman]

Isn't the upper on a FAL considered to be the firearm like the lower is for the AR-15? In that case, wouldn't it not matter what he changes about the lower if the upper receiver remains?

 

[Juster]

The positive outcome for this thread is what exactly?

 

[shortandlong]

Its just a discussion does it need a positive outcome?

 

[Juster]

If confiscation is an outcome, it it more than a discussion.

 

[shortandlong]

aaahh understood

 

[sunray]

"...registered mistakenly..." Paperwork errors don't mean anything. FN's are prohibited by name. Anyone in possession of one without the proper permit is SOL. Since civil servants don't make mistakes, I'd bet they'd be told they can't have the prohibited permit and must dispose of 'em to somebody who does or turn 'em in.

 

[stencollector]

The single shot FNs were deemed prohibited, as Maxim pointed out. But the FN CAL, of which a few made it into the US in semi automatic, is a restricted only gun. I saw one on gunbroker about 2 months back for around 8K.

The FN CAL was not a success because it was still machined in the way the old weapons were made, and as such were expensive. A number were dumped into the US collectors market in semi auto while FN redesigned and cheapened it into the FN FNC.

The FN FNC and it's variants are prohibited, as are the FN FAL and it's variants, including that single shot model. But the CAL was missed, since it was not overly common and did not show in the guns digest that was used to draw up the prohibs. It is shown in the FRT as restricted, due to length.

 

[stencollector]

I will attempt to get a hold of the new owner of this rifle and get a copy of the registration. I did see the registration that the now deceased owner had and under class was listed Non Restricted.
It is not strictly a version of an FN, as the lower is just spare parts and there fore not controlled. The rifle used the same bolt and carrier, different barrel, no gas system and target sights of some description. The reciever had no ability to take a magazine and was only machined to have a feed ramp, no mag housing. It still had one recoil spring instead of two and when you pulled back the cocking leaver the action was automatically locked open. You simply placed a cartridge on the feed ramp and pushed down on the hold open catch, the bolt slammed forward, chambering the round and once the trigger was pulled and the round fired, you reefed back on the action and repeated the whole thing again. It was really quite neat. I think if I remember the owner once told me he was aware of perhaps two or three in Canada.

Scott

If the deceased owner was the same guy from the Edmonton area that my C2A1 came from, it was my understanding that the single shot FN was deemed to be prohib. I know a guy who tried to buy it but the transfer was refused.