what's so wrong with the Rem 710/770?

For all the reason's stated above, avoid the 710 / 770. Numerous problems with that Fisher price action. The cheap tupperware stock - just nasty; you won't be happy with it. Other than the Savage packages, watch the EE forums for some quality sporting arms. That forum has a lot to offer if your patient.
 
to keep this thread from being too biased, so here are some firsthand reviews from 710 owners:

p4titangt said:
I purchased the Remington 710 almost two years ago. At the time my friends gave me a hard time for buying it. The scope did not stay adjusted at first and the bolt is a little bit sloppy. I knew that this gun was cheap and there may be some modifications needed. ITS CHEAP! With that being said I took it to my gunsmith and had the trigger pull set at 2.5 lbs, the scope adjusted, along with a little smoothing of the cartridge. Once the work was done I put the gun to the test. With factory rounds it grouped decent using 180 grain bullets. Once I switched to hand loads using a 180 grain bullet and 54.5 grains of powder, I can shoot the 710 better than several people with 700's savages, and even a kimber....yes a kimber which is much more expensive than the purchase price of my gun and all the work done to it. To put is simple....300 yards it stays grouped less than 1/4". With any gun that you buy for only a couple hundred dollars you have to asume that you may have to have to make some changes to get the best performance. When you spend lots of money on a gun you expect the manufacture to do it for you.
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p4titangt said:
At 100 yards it will hit the same hole. I'm not posting to this thread to brag about how well I can shoot or that the 710 is better than your tricked out 700P. And a $500 scope? Where did that come from. The Bushnell scope that came with it is the same scope I am using.

All I am saying is that when you find a good powder, bullet, and primer combo....you can get superb results. As I mentioned before Factory Loads did not group as well in my 710. The grouping that I got with the factory loads at times weren't even consistant. On more than one occasion there would be a bullet off all by itself. That being said, after handloading many different combos you can find a combo that will be THE load for your gun and if you are a serious handloader you would know that. Also as I said before that my 710 did have work done to it to get it to where it is. Just by adjusting the trigger pull on your rifle to the way you shoot can add tremendous accuracy. Adjust your scope horizontal line exactly level and adjust your scope vertical line near perfect to dead center on your barrel. Then adjust your sights. Perfect example: I have a savage mark II .22 that did not shoot well because the front of my scope was tightened down too far to the left and the tube of the scope was slightly turned to where the horizontal scope lines where not level to the gun. When I would shoot the gun I could not hit the target consistantly. When my Dad shot it because of the way he held it he was more consistant with the gun. Once I discovered the scope issue I become much more consistant with the gun. As I said before when you buy a more expensive and well made gun you will get better out of the box accuracy because the manufacture know you will demand nothing less from them. When you buy a cheaper gun...patience is a vertue to get the results you desire. If you don't believe the 1/4" group at 300 yards then so be it. Take then only the fact that it gets the job done as seen in my previous picture. To argue with a person who has their mind made up, is the same as carrying on a conversation with a brick wall. I mearly am offering my experience and opinion of the 710 for you to take and use how you choose.
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jsin607 said:
My 710 will put them in the same hole a 100 yards all day long.

I even got a Simmons 4x12x50 scope at a yard sale for $10

I have probably spent more on ammunition than I did on the gun itself.

Good deal, good gun.

The best part was I got it at Wal-Mart
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warezdog said:
The 710 early models did have problems in 2002 but have long been worked out. At wally world for $325 you can get a 30-06 with a decent Lupoid scope and put 3 outta 5 rounds inside a quarter at 100 yards right out of the box. (once sighted which is easy and quick)

For someone to say that the 710 isn't a good rifle is an idiot. They are made at the new plant, use alot of the 700 trigger mech and have teflon process for self lubrication. Sure the bolt is a little different but the throw is nice and it doesn't stick like the early ones. Simple at 22 parts its a great rifle for the frugal an cheap like myself.

For the price it cant be beat, even if you could get a 700 for $500+/- the 710 would still be a better deal and I won't stoop to the level to even compare it with a Savage or any other rifle in its class.
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:runaway:
all from another epic 710/770 thread at thehighroad :)
thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=866
 
Thanks for the link. Out of curiousity, I ventured there. The thread on "thehighroad" strongly resembles this one; every lonely post in praise is offset by numerous opposing posts.

They especially had fun with "warezdog".
 
Quote: "To put is simple....300 yards it stays grouped less than 1/4".

No one has called him on this statement? Sounds like BS to me. He obviously wants us to believe its a good gun, but his credibility is a little tarnished by that statement. 1/4" at 100 yards is hard enough, but at 300 yards?????
 
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When the same fellow who wrote

"...For someone to say that the 710 isn't a good rifle is an idiot."

then writes "...and I won't stoop to the level to even compare it with a Savage or any other rifle in its class."

his claim to be arguing rationally starts going round in ever-decreasing circles and then disappears up his own arse.

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Grizzlypeg said:
Quote: "To put is simple....300 yards it stays grouped less than 1/4".

No one has called him on this statement? Sounds like BS to me. He obviously wants us to believe its a good gun, but his credibility is a little tarnished by that statement. 1/4" at 100 yards is hard enough, but at 300 yards?????
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BS for sure. Someone chime in if they can shoot 1/4" groups @ 300 yards with any rifle they own.....
Ok, no response there. Someone chime in if they can get 1/4" groups at any distance over 50 yards with a 710.......... hmmm same response.
 
Grizzlypeg said:
Quote: "To put is simple....300 yards it stays grouped less than 1/4".

No one has called him on this statement? Sounds like BS to me. He obviously wants us to believe its a good gun, but his credibility is a little tarnished by that statement. 1/4" at 100 yards is hard enough, but at 300 yards?????
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It's BS, but who really cares? The 710 is a pos, plain and simple. If the guy wants to pretend it's a phazer gun, have at 'er...
 
Curt said:
BS for sure. Someone chime in if they can shoot 1/4" groups @ 300 yards with any rifle they own.....
Ok, no response there. Someone chime in if they can get 1/4" groups at any distance over 50 yards with a 710.......... hmmm same response.
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Here's 3 shots at 300 yards I fired in March out of an old target rifle of mine (.308). The barrel had rusted horribly, and, out of desperation, I'd cleaned it out with valve-grinding compound and steel wool (seriously). This was an experimental load, on my second trip to the range after removing the rust. It's definitely a little over 1/4 inch, but it's not bad, all things considered. Since then, I've shot comparable groups with other loads:

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You can find the full story of this adventure here:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218941

In my opinion, 1/4 inch at 300 yards is not at all unreasonable with today's target rifles and handloads, provided the wind is in your favour. Having said this, I must say that I find it hard to believe that a factory hunting rifle, much less a 710, is capable of this kind of accuracy.
 
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In any mass-produced product there are variations in how closely individual examples adhere to the specifications and we all know that it may all just come together in a particular rifle and with the right load it may be significantly more accurate than the ones before and after it on the production line. We are not in a position to disprove some guy's claim that his 710/770 produced a quarter inch group at 300 yards, but if it's true, that rifle is a freak and therefore not a good reason to buy a 710/770.

Remington builds this rifle to sell at a relatively low price to the kind of hunter who probably doesn't get enough shooting practise to consistently achieve quarter inch groups at 100 yards. If the design engineering and production quality were so good as to do that, in Remington's marketing campaign for the rifle would be saying so loudly and often. But they don't even make such claims for their 700.
 
stubblejumper said:
I will not own a gun with a pressed in barrel like the 710 and 770.The entire gun is poorly designed and made as cheaply as possible.
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I doubt that a press fit barrel is not worse or better then a threaded one...that is if you don't plan to change it in the future which would be a real pain in the ass with a press fit.

I bet most of your trucks engine parts are also press fit together.

But yah the rest of the gun is crap.
 
My brother in law had one of the older 710's in 30-06, We both used it for about 3 years or so. Very accurate at 100 yards not so good at 200 yards but still about 1 inch groups at 200. I have to say there was never a problem with the rifle, fired hundreds and hundreds of factory and reloads. Hunted 2 seasons, 2 shots and 2 moose killed. Have since traded up to a tikka, WAY Smoother action but also way lighter and much more felt recoil.

Would I buy one? Nope, not as long as there's a Stevens to be had. Tons of after market stuff available, once you have the action you can customize as your budget allows, barrels, stocks etc.. it's just a good place to start.
 
We can't say for sure that these sniper shooting remington guys are full of $hit because we weren't there to witness. And it is possible that the remington factory completely messed up and made an accurate 770/710 by accident. Even gun guys workin the assembly line have bad days.
I can only chime in with my .02 cents worth and say BULL####BULL#### to the two that shoot 1/4" at 300 and the dude that shot 1" at 200 yards with this P.O.S. 770. I know its the internet and everyone is a tough guy that can make Rampage Jackson crap his pants, etc etc etc, everyone can shoot 5" groups at 1000 yards at any one of the 950 gun ranges in Canada that have that distance marked out...... what I am trying to say is that its easy to make claims when its impossible to back them up. I know a guy that was going on and on about how accurate his rifle was he was selling. He even faked a target so he could sell it. (he told me he stood at 15 feet away and shot 5 into one ragged hole....from a rifle rest) then said the target was shot with factory ammo at 150 yards. So data is easy to manipulate. And these guys must think the world is just plain naive and stupid to eat up any of their rediculous claims. I have held 2 and they are just plain Sh itty guns. Not a leg to stand on with this argument.
 
Who were the two guys who claimed to be able to shoot 1/4 inch at 300 yards with this rifle? My read of the thread shows only one guy making that claim.

Surely, you can't be referring to me?
 
I doubt that a press fit barrel is not worse or better then a threaded one...that is if you don't plan to change it in the future which would be a real pain in the ass with a press fit.
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I won't buy any rifle that can't easily be rebarreled.
 
That's because you don't understand the benefit of a Remington 710 or 770 which is that while it can't be easily rebarrelled, it can be easily thrown away.
 
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i have had a good laugh with the 710s, my buddy has one that he hasnt fired 200 rounds out of, so he brings it out fires 1 round and the bolt locks up! a hammer works wonders on those POS 710s
 
As for hunting success I have nothing to say except I will need to lock my freezer. It keeps filling up with game meat every year. What am I doing wrong?
 
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