Information about SV-99 Rifle

Epoxy7 said:
Someone with money just has to make the right calls. A slight adaption might be needed but where there is money there is a way. When the Soviet Union died, this opened up the doors. Hello capitalism.

The problem is money, volume and talking to the right person.
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Yes and a Gazillion dollars will get concealed carry in Canada and your taps to flow with milk and honey.

Come back to the real world and the situation is as I stated, no military exports to civilians. Russians do not export 5.45 rifles for this reason, flute the chamber in 7.62X39 saiga's for this reason, use lesser materials in the tigr for this reason, and whole lot of other crap. Russia is not interested in sending military technology to civilians in other countries, or their own. They will sell similar civilian guns though.

Good luck and I really hope I am wrong.
 
Scarecrow said:
Yes and a Gazillion dollars will get concealed carry in Canada and your taps to flow with milk and honey.

Come back to the real world and the situation is as I stated, no military exports to civilians. Russians do not export 5.45 rifles for this reason, flute the chamber in 7.62X39 saiga's for this reason, use lesser materials in the tigr for this reason, and whole lot of other crap. Russia is not interested in sending military technology to civilians in other countries, or their own. They will sell similar civilian guns though.

Good luck and I really hope I am wrong.
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Right and no one else could import the Norinco Type97 no matter what the price right? I've heard it all before. Once the iron curtain fell, it became possible. Like I said, enough orders, enough money and dealing with the right people. Money talks.
Military designation, easily gotten around. This is a .22 LR bolt action. Make the stock so it can't seperate but looks the same. Civilian version. They're no longer selling military firearms. Again enough money and someone will do it.

By the way that is the real world. Look at the board sponsors. How many firearms have they gotten in that most people would have previously thought were impossible?
 
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Epoxy7 said:
Right and no one else could import the Norinco Type97 no matter what the price right? I've heard it all before. Once the iron curtain fell, it became possible. Like I said, enough orders, enough money and dealing with the right people. Money talks.
Military designation, easily gotten around. This is a .22 LR bolt action. Make the stock so it can't seperate but looks the same. Civilian version. They're no longer selling military firearms. Again enough money and someone will do it.

By the way that is the real world. Look at the board sponsors. How many firearms have they gotten in that most people would have previously thought were impossible?
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Am I talking to a wall? China doesnt have rules on exporting civilian rifles to civilians, your point is garbage. Russian law doesnt change because people on CGN want some rimfires, come back to reality.
 
Scarecrow said:
Am I talking to a wall? China doesnt have rules on exporting civilian rifles to civilians, your point is garbage. Russian law doesnt change because people on CGN want some rimfires, come back to reality.
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Yes you'ret talking to a wall. :rolleyes:
10 round mags in AR rifles, VZ-58 non restricted rifles instead of AK rifles, Chinese Type97 bullpup non restricted rifles etc etc. It's a good thing the sponsors are more creative than you are. Otherwise I'd be stuck shooting hunting rifles only.

Obviously you deal within the rules and find legal ways to accomplish your ends. As seen in the above Canadian examples. Open your eyes, learn to improvise and find solutions. I hate it when people give up because "it can't be done". Those are the people that never do anything in life. They've already defeated themselves. Sorry if I'd rather see people try to overcome the challenge rather than just throw in the towel. Besides I happen to think these rifles would sell very well. $$$ is a good motivator.
 
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Guys, Guys...re-read CanAm's post #15. We need a Canadian Distributor for Izhmash to keep prices low and make it attractive for distributors/retailers to bring the stuff in. Instead of bickering we need to send Izhmash a message that we want their products....I'm sure Izhmash makes a a similar "civilian" non-take down version of the SV-99...I'd be happy with that...we just need a Canadian Distributor...
 
This is the closest I got .. I guess I can bubba it into an SV-99...... NOT!!!!

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Civilian Version: SV-99

Clobbersauras said:
... I'm sure Izhmash makes a a similar "civilian" non-take down version of the SV-99...I'd be happy with that....
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To date, no civilian legal version is being produced for export.

However, in its current version it is legal for police agencies, game wardens and animal control officers.

It is not the take-down feature that precludes the importation of the SV-99.

The SV-99 was produced as a military sniper rifle - period.
The fact it is a military weapon is what excludes the SV
from importation into the U.S. for civilian use.
 
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Epoxy7 said:
Yes you'ret talking to a wall. :rolleyes:
10 round mags in AR rifles, VZ-58 non restricted rifles instead of AK rifles, Chinese Type97 bullpup non restricted rifles etc etc. It's a good thing the sponsors are more creative than you are. Otherwise I'd be stuck shooting hunting rifles only.

Obviously you deal within the rules and find legal ways to accomplish your ends. As seen in the above Canadian examples. Open your eyes, learn to improvise and find solutions. I hate it when people give up because "it can't be done". Those are the people that never do anything in life. They've already defeated themselves. Sorry if I'd rather see people try to overcome the challenge rather than just throw in the towel. Besides I happen to think these rifles would sell very well. $$$ is a good motivator.
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Open your eyes. The QBZ is the export version, not the 5.8, EXPORT VERSION.
VZ58's, EXPORT CIVILIAN VERSIONS.

These guns are made to come here, even before Canadian dealers found them!:rolleyes:
 
Scarecrow said:
Open your eyes. The QBZ is the export version, not the 5.8, EXPORT VERSION.
VZ58's, EXPORT CIVILIAN VERSIONS.

These guns are made to come here, even before Canadian dealers found them!:rolleyes:
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Enough interest, enough money and a Civilian model is born. Why do you think there was an exportable civilian model of the Type97, VZ-58 etc to begin with? Money and demand. Welcome to the adult world.

We just need some dealers asking for the right product.
I mean christ slap some biathlon actions into the SV-99 stock or a very similiar modified one and I'd be happy. Good action, good accuracy, neat stock. Not a SV-99 but close enough that it's a nice want to own rimfire.
 
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30 - 50 guns to Canada isnt demand, its 1 day at a gun vendor in the states.
We can't even get 80% of the regular civilian arms Russia can sell us since Armrus left.

Sorry but I am a realist.
 
Scarecrow said:
30 - 50 guns to Canada isnt demand, its 1 day at a gun vendor in the states.
We can't even get 80% of the regular civilian arms Russia can sell us since Armrus left.

Sorry but I am a realist.
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Like you said, that's a 1 day gun vendor in the states. Interest was also high on the Rimfire central site. They get one made, and we'll have a shot at ordering those in too.

By the way Scarecrow you might want to take a look at how some of the other people on this site have succeeded by being inovative and not just throwing in the towel. There are a few FN PS-90 and FS2000 examples out there. Legal but got around the problem.

The bottom line is I hate the attitude expressed in your posts. That type of thinking is for losers.

You're not always going to win, but if you don't even bother I guarantee you'll always lose.
 
Epoxy7 said:
There are a few FN PS-90 and FS2000 examples out there. Legal but got around the problem.
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http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=243738&highlight=sxyglock

My attitude is based on reality. If you want a SV99 rifle spend the time like I have looking at how the russians function when it comes to getting civilians firearms. Notice how we dont get any of there military adopted firearms, notice how even Saiga's in 5.45 in the states are US conversions because Russia doesn't consider 5.45 a civilian caliber. Positive thinking is always great, but reality is king, and when it comes to Russian guns in Canada, the state of affairs is so horrid I cannot even purchase spare magazines for my viking pistol I bought years ago. We cannot get there standard firearms, unless horribly overpriced or marked Remington, and then you come along and say if we push really hard we can get military grade hardware for a market demand of little or no consequence to the firearms industry? Sorry, but all that positive Disney type thinking will make it happen stuff really rubs me the wrong way.
 
Scarecrow said:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=243738&highlight=sxyglock

My attitude is based on reality. If you want a SV99 rifle spend the time like I have looking at how the russians function when it comes to getting civilians firearms. Notice how we dont get any of there military adopted firearms, notice how even Saiga's in 5.45 in the states are US conversions because Russia doesn't consider 5.45 a civilian caliber. Positive thinking is always great, but reality is king, and when it comes to Russian guns in Canada, the state of affairs is so horrid I cannot even purchase spare magazines for my viking pistol I bought years ago. We cannot get there standard firearms, unless horribly overpriced or marked Remington, and then you come along and say if we push really hard we can get military grade hardware for a market demand of little or no consequence to the firearms industry? Sorry, but all that positive Disney type thinking will make it happen stuff really rubs me the wrong way.
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It's not positive "disney" stuff. It's called problem solving. The few people with the legal FS2000 and PS-90 firearms did exactly that. It paid off for them.

I do understand what you're saying. I appreciate the fact that you've researched their rules/regulations. However there's more than one way to skin a cat. In my job I can accomplish something under various laws,Acts, etc, not just Criminal Code offences. It's called problem solving. Sometimes you have to attack the problem from a different angle. I also think the fact that it's a .22 bolt action rifle makes it easier to think of ways around this problem. Heck you might even need another country to make a knock off. Either way there is obviously an interest in a rifle like this. As for the 50-80 rifles. Marster's made that mistake with the VZ-58L. They underestimated the market significantly with 300 rifles. I've been waiting a year becaue of that. I think you may be underestimating the market for this type of rimfire.

You saying it can't be done, makes me want to see it happen even more. Much like the Typ97 rifle debate earlier. I pre ordered one mostly because I liked the fact that someone put it on the line, got the job done and is prepared to deliver at a reasonable price. When others said it couldn't be done ;) I had to buy one for that fact alone.
 
Epoxy7 said:
It's not positive "disney" stuff. It's called problem solving. The few people with the legal FS2000 and PS-90 firearms did exactly that. It paid off for them.
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This is how much it payed off exactly for that person.

Attention News Editors:
RCMP interrupt large scale illegal gun importation

TORONTO, May 15 /CNW/ - On May 14th, 2008, RCMP Investigators with the
assistance of Durham Regional Police and Ontario Provincial Police executed
search warrants at two (2) locations and arrested one (1) individual after a
16 month investigation into firearms trafficking and illegal importation of
weapons and ammunition from the United States.

<<
In yesterday's searches as well as during the course of the investigation,
the RCMP seized:

- 21 military assault rifles
- one handgun
- two rifles
- one shotgun
- one 40mm Military Grenade Launcher
- more than 12 000 rounds of ammunition
- 50 prohibited high capacity magazines
>>

76 charges have been laid in relation to this investigation, including
charges under the Criminal Code of Canada, Firearms Act, Explosives Act and
the Export Import Permits Act. Additional charges are also pending as a result
of yesterday's raids.
Charged is James Wesley MAUNDER (age 28) of Bowmanville, Ontario.
The investigation was conducted in partnership between the Toronto RCMP
Customs and Excise Section, Canada Border Services Agency, Canada Firearms
Centre and the Controlled Goods Directorate. During the course of the
Investigation, assistance was also provided by United States Immigration
Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms
(ATF).
"Cross border initiatives to stem the illegal proliferation of firearms
and ammunition are an important step towards securing safe communities" stated
Insp. Greg Johnson, officer in charge of the Greater Toronto Area Customs and
Excise Unit. "The illegal importation and sale of firearms as well as the
possession of explosives poses a threat to public safety and the combined
efforts of many agencies resulted in this successful investigation and
seizure".
MAUNDER was remanded in custody and is scheduled to appear in the Whitby
Court on May 20th, 2008.




For further information: Cpl. Marc LaPorte, "O" Division Media Relations
Officer, Office: (519) 640-7302, Cell: (416)992-4409
 
Russian uns

The Russian gun makers produce a lot of very fine equipment. The problem is, they only sell in large quantities, so buying just one will be impossible. A distributor needs to purchase a virtual truckload. This has always been the case with Russian guns; even in the days RUKO was bringing them in, except for the occasional sample. So, you would need to find a foreign dealer who carries the gun, and get it imported from them to you. Try Germany (Frankonia), or Finland. Also, as others have mentioned, military guns are available to those who are legally authorized to own them. Such is the fate of the SV-99. If you really like the concept of the gun, why not by a Fortner-actioned biathlon rifle, and make your own .22 sniper rifle; it would work a little better, and the parts are much easier to get. The Izhmash guns I own were imported through Kalashnikov-USA in Florida. I don't even know if they still exist.
 
Scarecrow said:
This is how much it payed off exactly for that person.

Attention News Editors:
RCMP interrupt large scale illegal gun importation
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Uh huh. :rolleyes:

You obviously missed the point about "legally". There are a few out there. A very few. Those people found legal ways around the problem. As a result they have a very desirable collectable firearm.
 
Received this today.
I'm guessing a number of us have emailed them so they put together a form letter.

Dear Sir,
Thank you for your interest to our products. All the military items (SVD) can be shipped through"Rosoboronexport". By the questions on purchasing our military weapons youshould address and send your inquiry to Mr. Sergey Chemezov GeneralDirector "Rosoboronexport": fax +7-495-202-45-94, +7-495-203-29-88.There is no any e-mail address. All inquiries on purchase target/hunting weaponmanufactured by IZHMASH CONCERN OJSC we recommend you to applyto the address of our exclusive distributor in Canada and USA - "RAAC"company: "RUSSIAN AMERICAN ARMORY COMPANY"Address: 677 S. Cardinal Lane, Scottsburg, Indiana 47170 USATel.: 812-752-2894Fax: 812-752-7683e-mail: raacak@aol.comHomer VanFleet - President Sincerely yours, V.P. OzhegovDirector on Marketing and Sales"CONCERN "IZHMASH" OJSC Fax: 7-3412-78-36-35Phone: 7-3412-495-491; 7-3412-495-073www.izhmash.rumailto:arms-export@izhmash.ru

It's unfortunate about the going through the US crud. The biathlon 7-2 has my interest. The SV-99 would be the best but the 7-2 is nice as well. If the price was reasonable I could see them selling pretty well in Canada.
 
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