Which of these 2 should I get?

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I'm going to be buying a Shotgun soon but I don't know what to get :confused::confused::confused:

I don't know what it is but I like Remington stuff. Something about the price and quality balance suits me.

Right now I'm not looking to spend more than $800-$900.
I want to shoot clays mostly, turkey and possibly some deer. And as of right now, I'm looking at the 870 Wingmaster and the 11-87 Sportsman Synthetic.

What do you guys think?
 
vtrguy said:
I'm going to be buying a Shotgun soon but I don't know what to get :confused::confused::confused:

I don't know what it is but I like Remington stuff. Something about the price and quality balance suits me.

Right now I'm not looking to spend more than $800-$900.
I want to shoot clays mostly, turkey and possibly some deer. And as of right now, I'm looking at the 870 Wingmaster and the 11-87 Sportsman Synthetic.

What do you guys think?
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The Wingmaster is better quality. The sportsman synthetic is express quality.
 
If your wanting to go after deer, turkey, and shoot clays, your probably better off going with a combo gun, i know mossberg has one for around $500 or so, not top quality, but a very reliable gun ...

Mossberg 535 ATS 3 Barrel Combo features 12 gauge 3 barrel combo. 22” turkey, 24” Slugster®, 28” VR barrels. AP camo. Adjustable fiber optic sights, interchangeable Accu-Choke™ tubes

But if yor going for mostly clays id go for a nice O/U, mainly because of the two chokes, and in your price range id reccomend a Stevens Gold WIng which is around $600
 
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When the weather turns nasty and cold, sleet and snow start coming down sideways and your fingers will freeze in the open, that's a good day. When you walk out to pick up a bird, and your boots get sucked down into the mud and you fall trying to get out of what's turning into a not so fun time your gun's going down with you. When you get back to shore and unplug the muzzle of mud and let the water drip out, which of the two do you think is going to work till the end of the day? You can never go wrong with a 870 pump gun. But instead of spending $700 on one, buy a $300 Express, some good waders and shells. A few decoys and maybe a call or two. Throw in a slug barrel for deer and you still haven't spent the cost of a Wingmaster and your Express will probably look better after all that mud is hosed off when you get home.
 
pharaoh2 said:
When the weather turns nasty and cold, sleet and snow start coming down sideways and your fingers will freeze in the open, that's a good day. When you walk out to pick up a bird, and your boots get sucked down into the mud and you fall trying to get out of what's turning into a not so fun time your gun's going down with you. When you get back to shore and unplug the muzzle of mud and let the water drip out, which of the two do you think is going to work till the end of the day? You can never go wrong with a 870 pump gun. But instead of spending $700 on one, buy a $300 Express, some good waders and shells. A few decoys and maybe a call or two. Throw in a slug barrel for deer and you still haven't spent the cost of a Wingmaster and your Express will probably look better after all that mud is hosed off when you get home.
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I totally agreee with what you're saying, I've owned the express mag syn. before. Although I know it is cheaper and it has never given any problems in the past I still would like to have the best of the best of the 870 pumps. On that note, do you think I should get a pump or auto-loader for shooting clays and range fun and for turkey/deer?
 
eiderduckhunter said:
If your wanting to go after deer, turkey, and shoot clays, your probably better off going with a combo gun, i know mossberg has one for around $500 or so, not top quality, but a very reliable gun ...

Mossberg 535 ATS 3 Barrel Combo features 12 gauge 3 barrel combo. 22” turkey, 24” Slugster®, 28” VR barrels. AP camo. Adjustable fiber optic sights, interchangeable Accu-Choke™ tubes

But if yor going for mostly clays id go for a nice O/U, mainly because of the two chokes, and in your price range id reccomend a Stevens Gold WIng which is around $600
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Seems like an alright solution, its just that I'm set on getting a Remington though ;)

I have looked at the Stevens Goldwing O/U but I don't know anything about it or if its good or not :confused:
 
Vimy Ridge said:
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I'm still trying to decide if I should go with a Pump or Auto-Loader shotgun.

for me:

Pump Pros: Cheaper, more reliable and more versitility
Pump Cons: no semi-automatic feature

Auto Pros: quicker shots, reliable
Auto Cons: more expensive, not as reliable as a pump


LOL, after typing this looks like I'm gonna go with the Pump.
 
vtrguy said:
I'm still trying to decide if I should go with a Pump or Auto-Loader shotgun.

for me:

Pump Pros: Cheaper, more reliable and more versitility
Pump Cons: no semi-automatic feature

Auto Pros: quicker shots, reliable
Auto Cons: more expensive, not as reliable as a pump


LOL, after typing this looks like I'm gonna go with the Pump.
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Exactly! :D
 
vtrguy said:
for me:

Pump Pros: Cheaper, more reliable and more versitility
Pump Cons: no semi-automatic feature

Auto Pros: quicker shots, reliable
Auto Cons: more expensive, not as reliable as a pump, not all loads will cycle, expensive/hard to repair,mag cap is limited, can't 'rack' the pump!
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darkshadow said:
Pump Pros: Cheaper, more reliable and more versitility
Pump Cons: no semi-automatic feature

Auto Pros: quicker shots, reliable
Auto Cons: more expensive, not as reliable as a pump, not all loads will cycle, expensive/hard to repair,mag cap is limited, can't 'rack' the pump!
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Remington SPR 453:

-less finicky and therefore more reliable than 11-87
-cycles loads from 1oz 2 3/4" to 3.5"
-inexpensive


that said if this is your first shotgun, look no further than an 870.
its bombproof, you can adapt/modify it into anything you want, its proven, reliable, and there are tonnes of aftermarket and take-off parts always on the EE. you might regret buying a semi but youll never, ever regret buying an 870 since youll always have a use for it. if you dont like something about it, you can just customize it.
 
I have both 870 and 1100G3 autoloader. I love my autoloader but it is no sportsman, I think I like it more because it is beautiful to look at.

If I had to choose one for any reason whatsoever, it would be the 870, everytime.

I bought an 870 supermag turkey synthetic($450), camo ramline stock set($100), parkerised and gunkoted Foliage Green by Arwin Ace($200). I now have an indestructable hunting gun for less than $800, and it looks awesome.
 
vtrguy said:
I totally agreee with what you're saying, I've owned the express mag syn. before. Although I know it is cheaper and it has never given any problems in the past I still would like to have the best of the best of the 870 pumps. On that note, do you think I should get a pump or auto-loader for shooting clays and range fun and for turkey/deer?
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Well it looks like you answered that question yourself. :D

I'll say this, my next shotgun purchase is probably going to be a Remington 105 autoloader. I just think it's neat. But if I'm going hunting and I know it's going to be crappy out, the 870 is coming along. And that's the weird thing about me, I like knowing that whatever gun I'm using I won't mind having it nice weather or crappy weather. The 105 would be different, it would be an upland gun that might see the odd duck shoot. But this gun would be ideal for a sporting clays type gun. It's supposed to suck up the recoil which would make it perfect for alot of rounds through a day. I don't shoot clays, but if you plan to shoot alot an auto might help you out. I've never hunted turkey, but all the programs I've watched the weather is usually quite nice, and I see no reason you'll dunk your gun. Deer might be different, but again I see no reason why an auto won't work for you. I still would give the nod to the 870, and not the Wingmaster. For a do it all gun capable of anything a pretty gun won't stay pretty for long. After a couple of years it will be scratched, dented and have the shiny bluing wore off in spots and maybe even have had a few rust spots touched up. The Express with a synthetic stock will look new for years and years, and probably look nicer than the Wingmaster after that time. Get yourself one and a full set of chokes and your off to the races, hunting or sporting wise. Put on one of those new cell recoil pads and it will help with an all day clays game too. Good luck with your choice.
 
Another thing to remember if turkey hunting is your thing, it's most often a one shot deal, so the autoloader doesn't have to cycle properly. But I am confident a 1187 wouldn't let you down.
 
pharaoh2 said:
Well it looks like you answered that question yourself. :D

I'll say this, my next shotgun purchase is probably going to be a Remington 105 autoloader. I just think it's neat. But if I'm going hunting and I know it's going to be crappy out, the 870 is coming along. And that's the weird thing about me, I like knowing that whatever gun I'm using I won't mind having it nice weather or crappy weather. The 105 would be different, it would be an upland gun that might see the odd duck shoot. But this gun would be ideal for a sporting clays type gun. It's supposed to suck up the recoil which would make it perfect for alot of rounds through a day. I don't shoot clays, but if you plan to shoot alot an auto might help you out. I've never hunted turkey, but all the programs I've watched the weather is usually quite nice, and I see no reason you'll dunk your gun. Deer might be different, but again I see no reason why an auto won't work for you. I still would give the nod to the 870, and not the Wingmaster. For a do it all gun capable of anything a pretty gun won't stay pretty for long. After a couple of years it will be scratched, dented and have the shiny bluing wore off in spots and maybe even have had a few rust spots touched up. The Express with a synthetic stock will look new for years and years, and probably look nicer than the Wingmaster after that time. Get yourself one and a full set of chokes and your off to the races, hunting or sporting wise. Put on one of those new cell recoil pads and it will help with an all day clays game too. Good luck with your choice.
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I would do a little reading on the 105 before I decided to buy apparently they have been having some problems with them.
 
manbearpig said:
Remington SPR 453:

-less finicky and therefore more reliable than 11-87
-cycles loads from 1oz 2 3/4" to 3.5"
-inexpensive


that said if this is your first shotgun, look no further than an 870.
its bombproof, you can adapt/modify it into anything you want, its proven, reliable, and there are tonnes of aftermarket and take-off parts always on the EE. you might regret buying a semi but youll never, ever regret buying an 870 since youll always have a use for it. if you dont like something about it, you can just customize it.
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That is a good price on the SPR453. This won't be my first shotgun. I've owned the 870 express super magnum synthetic.
 
For most hunting situations a pump is qick enough. When shooting doubles at clays the auto has an advantage.
 
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