if cpc get majority, are prohib pistols going to change?

the whole concept of the practical firearms system rested on qualifing the individual, not the firearm- and it recognised military service as well as grandfathering those individuals that had previous training in that "class" of firearm be it rifle, pistol, shotgun or smg( we DO EXIST- EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE FEW OF US) basically, it was a card with your name on one side and a grid qualification ( beginner, advanced, instructor) for the type on the backside-it's a GREAT foundation and doesn't bring into play any of the prejudices of the current system-
as far as the what we've got now goes, i'd settle for getting my safe queens hunting again and standard cap mags- i might even give up standard cap mags to get the safe queens back into the field- and for those who want the full auto, unless someone else is paying for your ammo, you're going to become disenchanted with it VERY QUICKLY-
it's no fun going through a 50 round box of ammo that cost about 10 bucks back then in about 5 seconds , including a mag change-
 
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As far as I am concerned, who cares if the gun registry get scraped or not.
The most important thing , is when the CPC get a majority on OCT 14 , they must introduces legislation so no goverment in the future can take our guns because they want too.

If that does not happen, we are just at the mercy of the first goverment that is anti gun.
 
Harper's bunch has already said, long ago, that they'd do away with the long gun registry. Nothing but the registry will change. Anything that is prohibited now will stay that way.
 
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If CPC gets a majority, and we can all get a widespread public education campaign going to educate people, especially in Ontario and Quebec about the actual facts and statistics regarding firearms then we'll open the public to being more accepting of removing the current prohibitions and restrictions. Certain things like suppressors could actually be relatively easy to get also, depending on how we frame the debate, use the example of countries in Europe that allow or even mandate supressors as a health and safety measure, or to reduce disturbance to neighbours. If the public starts viewing them in that light rather than how they see them in hollywood they would start asking why aren't they legal.
 
I'd like to see

1) Long gun registry abolished

2) Property rights

right than and there is will be nearly impossible for a future liberal government to effectively ban semi-autos

3) normal capacity magazines (hell even make them restricted for range use if they feel they have to cater to the soccer moms and media)

4) Review of OIC list -anything not full auto or converted auto made legal. I mean, WTF is a bolt action doing on that list?
 
Would depend on how they get rid of the registry. If they scrap C-68 and C-17 and replace them with new legislation, we MAY get a little more, but I doubt it. More likely he will do what he promised and get rid of the long gun registry only.

Hate to say it, but even the CPC goes on about "Duck hunters" and "Legitimate sport shooters" etc. There are far more Fuds than black rifle owners, so don't hold your breath waiting for the prohib and mag capacity stuff to go away.

That said, one step at a time! Just because we don't get more than the registry killed right away, doesn't mean we can't push hard and get more in the future, like a little "policy direction" on SAPs for example.

Oh, and BTW, we need to get the CPC a majority first before ANYTHING good can happen.
 
and what is a converted auto but a semi- the f/a function doesn't work anymore- indeed , the oic list needs to be reviewed, but in FAR greater scope than you intend- there are those of us who were made to suffer b/c our beloved m14 which was used for hunting suddenly "made the list" and had to buy another gun for substiance hunting- or borrow one
 
jobbass said:
As far as I am concerned, who cares if the gun registry get scraped or not.
The most important thing , is when the CPC get a majority on OCT 14 , they must introduces legislation so no goverment in the future can take our guns because they want too.

If that does not happen, we are just at the mercy of the first goverment that is anti gun.
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You're right, the first anti gun gov't and ones willingness to hand over their rights and property is all that is needed for citizens to become subjects.

TDC
 
jobbass said:
As far as I am concerned, who cares if the gun registry get scraped or not.
The most important thing , is when the CPC get a majority on OCT 14 , they must introduces legislation so no goverment in the future can take our guns because they want too.

If that does not happen, we are just at the mercy of the first goverment that is anti gun.
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Hate to rain on your parade but what ever legislation a CPC majority puts in can just as easaly be removed by a the next non CPC majority IF THEY WANT TO.
 
Here's what I think would be the easiest and best overall change to firearms laws for the Conservatives (other than the registry). This would be to allow the purchase of all classes of firearms for "self defence of the home" as their purpose. Getting away from this "target shooter" excuse and putting real legitimacy behind the self defence idea would get us a lot farther in the overall debate.

It is a first step in CCW and gives a good new reason to not ban handguns. Once in place, we could really campaign that the liberals would take away our defence from criminals etc... It would also open up the opportunity for more women to get into shooting for their own defence and increase our numbers.
 
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