During the first Bush administration one of the 'get tough with China' initiatives was to ban access to the largest firearms market in the world.
During the first Bush administration one of the 'get tough with China' initiatives was to ban access to the largest firearms market in the world.
The only reason I have a name brand single stack 1911 is that I can't take my customized Norinco in to the US for competitions.
Unlike my name brand my Norinco hasn't given me an ounce of trouble.
I understand I can't expect the world from a $350 pistol, I just thought I'd check what your experiences are:
I just received a Norinco 1911 .45 ACP pistol.
The mag release catches when pressed completely in, and can't be moved without undoing the screw that holds the spring.
With a magazine inserted I can not, not even with two thumbs, move the slide release. Without a magazine, it can be done with one hand.
Is this what can be expected with these pistols? Do I need to go on an extensive polishing trip? Or is this really what is considered beyond "normal", even for these cheap guns?
Cheers,
Frans
It was Clinton/Reno, IIRC.
Norinco was accused of knowingly selling military goods to criminal-types (allegedly intent on marketing to gang-bangers in California) who, as it turns out, were actually undercover agents of the State. The Clinton administration banned Norinco products from importation.
TDC wrote "The simple truth is that even Norinco owners know their guns are junk. Hence the reason they proudly claim X number of rounds without failure, or X size of group. Those who bought a brand name pistol feel little need to brag. Digesting large quantities of ammo without failure is expected and is demonstrated on a frequent and predictable basis."
I'd like to read what you consider to be a brand name pistol and I'm not talking custom jobs. I don't claim to be an expert but I've had more than a few along with Norc's and think you protest too much. I'd particularly like to know what you consider to be digesting large quantities of ammo consists of?
I'm torn sometimes as to weather we should buy Chinese but the best case to be made for *affordable* products is that it helps introduce people to something they might otherwise pass on. The prime example is Lee reloading gear. "Gun snobs" piss on Lee all the time but that company has probabaly done more to introduce people to the shooting sports than many others because they made it attractively affordable for those who were on the edge.
Products like that have a place and a role to serve.
I guess you've never been to the Philippines,where a very large and very active police force, which is currently involved in fighting a terrorist insurgency uses Norinco 1911's. The Philippine National Police issues them (hence the 'Police Model") instead of the locally produced Armscor. The PNP is currently about 3 times the size of the RCMP. As far as 'major competitors/major circuit' goes, there is really only one major circuit - the US, and Norinco pistols are banned there. Think that might have something to do with it?
TDC - So, what's your "go to" 1911 pistol?![]()
"The mag release catches when pressed completely in, and can't be moved without undoing the screw that holds the spring."
Take the mag release out of the pistol, remove the catch and the spring, clean the effing assembly and re-install, problem solved. Then take the rest of the pistol down to the bare frame and clean it thoroughly.
The design is 100 years old, the materials are first class, the execution is about average (especially on the latest examples). None of this is rocket science.
If I absolutely had to run one, it would be a Kimber. Its tough choice between a 1911 and a big stick..As for the SIG GSR, I wouldn't buy one, run one, or steal one if I had the chance. I'll throw this out there for some serious flame fest action. The 1911 is an ancient dinosaur that has been surpassed by modern technology and designs.
TDC
Okay, I take it you don't have a 1911.... what are you running for a pistol then?
I don't own a 1911, I have shot them a fair bit. Two shooting buddies have Kimbers. Nice guns, well made but inferior by design for my purposes. I run Glocks. They work, they're simple, and they're reliable.
My signature line is a big hint as to what I shoot.
TDC



























