configuring a m14

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I've done some searches and tried to pry the information out of the archives here, but am coming up a bit short so I thought I'd ask the knowledgable user ground here.

I grew up hunting with my dad, and when I was younger competed in target shooting at the canada summer games for .22's but fell away from it when I moved out west (grew up in the praries)

I've recently been interested in building up a m14 and after searching the black rifles forum for a potential project.

My question comes in as, where do I begin?

I'd like to put something together similar to some images I've seen

and dont even know whats involved.

I was hoping to get some recommendations about where to go/ how to make this kind of cenversion from an m14 and how much it would likely cost for something like this.

thanks

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I think I've seen a few "sage" (name of the chassic the M14's are bolted into in your photo's) equipped M14's ranging form $1200 to a high of $2500.

I think perhaps the first step would be to go out and get an M14 and try it out.

They are a hefty battle rifle, but one of the best. With the "Sage" chassis, they have a tendancy to be very front heavy. If you like a well balanced rifle, this may not be your cup of soup.

I am not certain whether you can get these chassis anymore due to the current importation ban from the US of "collapsible stock" style firearms and stocks.

There are a few items that may interest you on the Equipment Exchange with a Sage chassis.
 
Buy the M305
Marstars website
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/M-14S.shtm
Frontier Firearms
http://www.frontiertaxidermy.com/html/tactical_rifles.html

Buy the Stock
Marstars Website
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/M-14S-acc.shtm

Cut, Crown and thread the barrel to 18 3/4" length
Ellwood Epps
http://www.ellwoodepps.com/

replace the front gas lock with the Navy gas lock sight
Marstars Website
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/M-14S-acc.shtm
Smith enterprises (not sure if they export to canada)
http://www.smithenterprise.com/products03.html

Vortex Flash Hider
http://www.smithenterprise.com/products03.html (not sure if they export to canada)

There you have it .. I've had this project planned out for months, sadly I always seem to find other things to blow my hard earned cash on!
 
slushee said:
Buy the M305
Marstars website
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/M-14S.shtm
Frontier Firearms
http://www.frontiertaxidermy.com/html/tactical_rifles.html

Buy the Stock
Marstars Website
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/M-14S-acc.shtm

Cut, Crown and thread the barrel to 18 3/4" length
Ellwood Epps
http://www.ellwoodepps.com/

replace the front gas lock with the Navy gas lock sight
Marstars Website
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/M-14S-acc.shtm
Smith enterprises (not sure if they export to canada)
http://www.smithenterprise.com/products03.html

Vortex Flash Hider
http://www.smithenterprise.com/products03.html (not sure if they export to canada)

There you have it .. I've had this project planned out for months, sadly I always seem to find other things to blow my hard earned cash on!
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Don't forget the wait time...cause Marstar is out of most of that stuff...:)
 
Step 1: Read all of the "stickys" in Main Battle Rifles section
Step 2: Download and watch all the videos on the M 14 Instructional clinic.
Step 3: Read everything you can about the M 14 here and everywhere else (keep in mind that the U.S. sites love to slag the Norinco because it's not American made)
Step 4: Buy 2 M 14's (steps 1-4 were so you could tell a good one from a bad, or so-so-one.)
Step 5: (Probably most important) Go to one of "Hungry's" M 14 clinics. He'll show you lots of good "hands on " tips that save you time,lots of money and grief. A lot of it depends on what you want to do with it- do you want to build a "tack driver" or just something that looks cool? Hungry can give you some direction there too.They say a picture is worth a thousand words;well the clinic is worth 10 million and the "hands-on" is priceless. Go to the clinic,it's well worth the price of admission, you'll be glad you did. I sure was.:dancingbanana: Good luck.
 
Major Commander said:
Step 1: Read all of the "stickys" in Main Battle Rifles section
Step 2: Download and watch all the videos on the M 14 Instructional clinic.
Step 3: Read everything you can about the M 14 here and everywhere else (keep in mind that the U.S. sites love to slag the Norinco because it's not American made)
Step 4: Buy 2 M 14's (steps 1-4 were so you could tell a good one from a bad, or so-so-one.)
Step 5: (Probably most important) Go to one of "Hungry's" M 14 clinics. He'll show you lots of good "hands on " tips that save you time,lots of money and grief. A lot of it depends on what you want to do with it- do you want to build a "tack driver" or just something that looks cool? Hungry can give you some direction there too.They say a picture is worth a thousand words;well the clinic is worth 10 million and the "hands-on" is priceless. Go to the clinic,it's well worth the price of admission, you'll be glad you did. I sure was.:dancingbanana: Good luck.
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If you want to play Mr. Dressup with your rifle, and achieve the tactikewl look, by all means, have at it. Its your rifle, and your money.
The rifle has no moving parts behind the receiver. The collapsible AR stock is the way it is because there is a buffer and spring. Why put a collapsible stock on when you could use a folding stock and achieve much greater reduction in length?
What are you going to do with the rifle, apart from admiring its kewlness? Set the rifle up for best shooting performance, per Hungry's methods, shoot the rifle a bit, and then decide what modifications would make the rifle into a better shooter. A bobbed barrel, and shorter brake do make the rifle handier, and will not reduce accuracy.
 
i've never had the inclination to dress my 14 other than maybe go usgi fiberglas for stock- there other options for close quarters out there, and if i could afford it i'd go tavor or something like that- i consider the m14 as a longer ranged outfit and that's why all of mine are still in standard mil config , but i've added scopes and harris bipods- i've got one with a beretta folding stock on it( they did make those at one time) but i found it took longer to push the button and unfold the stock than it did to simply mount a standard- granted, it takes less time if you leave it partially deployed( fold it at the one hinge so it swings like a chote type instead of collapsing like it's supposed to) . but it still can't beat a fixed stock- oh yea, my ar is a 20 inch as well- so i'm not into the short diestance thing-unless it's previously mentioned tavor or some kind of smg
 
tiriaq said:
Why put a collapsible stock on when you could use a folding stock and achieve much greater reduction in length?
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I have never met a single folder that I liked. They all are clunky and not very solid.

The extension tube on the SAGE is rock solid and the adjustable LOP is appreciated.

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The new Detachable Cantilevered Sight Base from SAGE makes mounting optics much easier and lighter.
I recently installed a M14DCSB on my MK14 SEI Mod 0 and I researching what scope to install.

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BTW, the US ARMY is now "playing Mr. Dressup" with their M14s :cool:
 
The best folders I have encountered are the ones which use the FN FAL system. Also used on the Galil, Daewoo. For length of pull adjustment, the type used of target rifles is effective.
 
tiriaq said:
The best folders I have encountered are the ones which use the FN FAL system. Also used on the Galil, Daewoo. For length of pull adjustment, the type used of target rifles is effective.
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Good point on the DAEWOO, I do like that folding system :)
 
Major Commander said:
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Step 5: (Probably most important) Go to one of "Hungry's" M 14 clinics. He'll show you lots of good "hands on " tips that save you time,lots of money and grief. A lot of it depends on what you want to do with it- do you want to build a "tack driver" or just something that looks cool? Hungry can give you some direction there too.They say a picture is worth a thousand words;well the clinic is worth 10 million and the "hands-on" is priceless. Go to the clinic,it's well worth the price of admission, you'll be glad you did. I sure was.:dancingbanana: Good luck.
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You are not saying Hungry puts his hands on ....:D:

And I'm almost at post 2000, half of which have been sarcastic.
 
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