CZ 858 trigger
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It is like the m14s. Mine is lighter then my tuned m14 trigger and its also missing the extra spring that is in our SA trigger groups. I have A friend's rifle here and his still has the spring and I'd say the trigger is about as heavy as a factory m14s.
Also the trigger is much better then any SKS trigger I've ever used. IMHO
Also the trigger is much better then any SKS trigger I've ever used. IMHO
Huh, I would say mine has 2 stages. Not defined stages like a C7 but more like the m14s.
A longer light pull followed buy a deffinately heavier short pull, then a crisp release.
Have you removed this spring from yours yet?
If not then you likely have the above with a much heavier trigger and as a result a more mushy feel all the way to release.
My SL8 on the other hand is a single stage light short pull with crisp release, very different from the 858.
i agree with obi , i dont consider it a stage unless the sear are engaged so i think its a single stage .
now about the removal of the trigger spring (circled) in your pic , i been a firm believer for a long time that without the spring (see thread below) , it increases the chances of gremlin due to increase friction and wear .
try this test (only non-rest) , you will find the results interesting .
remove the top cover, striker and bolt , leave the muzzle on the floor , using the top cover pin as a measuring point , lift the back end of the rifle till the top cover pin is 6" off the floor , slide the carrier back and let gravity slide it forward , does it sucessfully slide all the way forward ? now repeat at 8 , 10 , 12 & 14 " .
heres my results :
height of pin: rifle A(1) .....rifle B(2)....rifle A (3).... rifle B(4)
6" ...............failed............failed............failed............failed
8" ...............success.........success........failed............failed
10".....................................................failed............failed
12".....................................................success.........failed
14"........................................................................success
note: (1) rifle A with no known gremlin with trigger spring.
(2) rifle B with know gremlin with trigger spring .
(3) rifle A with no known gremlin with trigger spring removed .
(4) rifle B with known gremlin with trigger spring removed .
as you can see from the data , without the trigger spring , the carrier requires more force to get over the sear disconnect (SD) and thats bcos of the increase interference placed on the carrier forward movement by the SD , the trigger spring reduce the rise in the SD . having said that , it doesnt mean that having the trigger spring you wont get the gremlin , all im saying is without it , it will increase the chances of getting the gremlin . well, takes my take on things so i like to leave my trigger springs in.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=169256
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Take the TS out of rifle one and tell me how it does. Using rifles with a known failure kinda skews your results. Use 4 known good rifles and test them all with the spring in and with it removed and you would have some good data.
Not that I'm saying you're wrong.
i have two cz858 , rifle A has no gremlin and rifle B does . the test tried both with and without the trigger spring on both the rifles , the results are pretty close enuff to suggest that without the trigger spring , it interfere with the carrier , resulting in increase wear ... sorry , i dont have 4 rifles , im sure others will try the experiment .
knock on wood . lol.
