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Strange statement
Not half as strange as the guy who made it.
Deer, Head shots, 22 250
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Not half as strange as the guy who made it.
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in my previous post i only was curious as to the legalities,on the other hand , my opinion would be this ; If you can consistently make your shot, and the animal drops dead on the spot, or shortly thererafter then , me , personally am ok with it I couldn't careless if you shot it with a slingshot, so long as you can consistently make a clean kill, same thing applies to me when asked about distance. If the animal drops dead in the shortest time possible, then as far as i'm concerned it is ethical, all depends on your abilities and how well you know your gun, and the animal you are hunting.
Meat that hasn't bled out????
If you want to see a lot of blood come out of an animal (ANY animal), shoot them in the head.
You shoot a deer in the head & you'll see a couple litres of blood.Besides, like Sjemac said, you field-dress the animal anyways, so you'll be taking out the heart/lungs & other organs. The best way to hang a deer is by the back legs, upside down. A head shot is like a drain for the blood.
I have shot 6-7 deer in the head so far out of my stands!
I have used a 22-250 to a 300 wby mag!
I know my gun I know the shot and when the trigger breaks turn out the light.
Its standard practice to take head shots on deer In our Camp!, and approximately 60 deer over the last 15 years have fallen with there last breath.
We have has 100% success with no bad storries. All shots are taken with in 60 yards off good rests. We know our limits and know when and when not to take a shot.
If you think or anyone else suggests that its not a good idea, than dont take it. I take the shot because I know I can make it. Just last year I made the decision not to take a head shot at closa range on a nice buck, I took his heart out instead. I could not get the scope to calm down, I was tierd, and sore, and had a few too many pops the night before, things were not right!
I have used a 22-250 to a 300 wby mag!
I know my gun I know the shot and when the trigger breaks turn out the light.
Its standard practice to take head shots on deer In our Camp!, and approximately 60 deer over the last 15 years have fallen with there last breath.
We have has 100% success with no bad storries. All shots are taken with in 60 yards off good rests. We know our limits and know when and when not to take a shot.
If you think or anyone else suggests that its not a good idea, than dont take it. I take the shot because I know I can make it. Just last year I made the decision not to take a head shot at closa range on a nice buck, I took his heart out instead. I could not get the scope to calm down, I was tierd, and sore, and had a few too many pops the night before, things were not right!
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Strange statement
He's pulling your dink... it's sarcasm bud...
I would use a head shot but only in a couple of situations.
Number 1 the animal would have to be point-blank; either standing and unawares or else a situation where the thing was charging me with intent to kill, and the head shot might save my life.
Otherwise I would shoot for the critical heart/lung area and maybe punching through the shoulder to reach that vital area.
Also I consider anything less then a .270 to be marginal for deer, so I would NOT be using a .22-250 even if it was legal.
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Freudian slip. Secretly you desire to hunt all game with the .22-250 but are afraid that you will be mocked by the magnum and large bore toting folks on CGN. Therefore you repress these desires until they are hidden in the deepest corners of your mind.
I'll repeat what was posted above. .22 rimfire or centerfires are NOT legal in Sask.
Years ago I saw a fellow shoot a mulie in the head and blow the lower jaw off. What made it even more infuriating was thatit was whitetail only season and my buddy and I who were driving down the road saw him taking aim and were yelling Don't shoot it is a mulie. Scoped rifle, 60 yards and a deer left to starve to death.
Years ago I saw a fellow shoot a mulie in the head and blow the lower jaw off. What made it even more infuriating was thatit was whitetail only season and my buddy and I who were driving down the road saw him taking aim and were yelling Don't shoot it is a mulie. Scoped rifle, 60 yards and a deer left to starve to death.
Pudelpointer
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The only things I have to add Sealhunter are:
1. BIPOD, shooting sticks are marginal but usable where the brush is too tall.
2. No WIND, those little .22 bullets are really pushed around by the wind.
3. Aim for the back of the skull whenever possible, i.e. axis vertibrae, as it is a much higher percentage shot. I have seen 2 deer lost from head shots (not me) that were frontal, too much bone.
4. I would NOT use the TSX on a head shot, Partition would be marginal as well, stay away from hard premium bullets for head shots. Try a 55 grain BT, as penetration is not your goal here, the goal is to transfer that 1500 to 1000 ft/lbs of energy to the deers head/neck - I guarantee that 1000+ ft/lbs hitting near the skull base will drop damn near anything, save maybe a Cape Buffalo.
Other than that, if you feel confident in the shot and conditions are good, why not?
I have made successful head shots from 15 to 300 yards, actually I have never missed a head shot as every one I have taken has been under ideal conditions: good rest, no buck fever, no/little wind, rifle I KNOW I can make the shot with. I have only ever lost one deer and that was a "chip shot" easy broadside angle on a doe with a 165gr 30 cal. that, as far as I can tell, hit an unseen twig and deflected; if I could have found a good rest I likely would have taken a head shot.
Let us know how it works out.
Ian
1. BIPOD, shooting sticks are marginal but usable where the brush is too tall.
2. No WIND, those little .22 bullets are really pushed around by the wind.
3. Aim for the back of the skull whenever possible, i.e. axis vertibrae, as it is a much higher percentage shot. I have seen 2 deer lost from head shots (not me) that were frontal, too much bone.
4. I would NOT use the TSX on a head shot, Partition would be marginal as well, stay away from hard premium bullets for head shots. Try a 55 grain BT, as penetration is not your goal here, the goal is to transfer that 1500 to 1000 ft/lbs of energy to the deers head/neck - I guarantee that 1000+ ft/lbs hitting near the skull base will drop damn near anything, save maybe a Cape Buffalo.
Other than that, if you feel confident in the shot and conditions are good, why not?
I have made successful head shots from 15 to 300 yards, actually I have never missed a head shot as every one I have taken has been under ideal conditions: good rest, no buck fever, no/little wind, rifle I KNOW I can make the shot with. I have only ever lost one deer and that was a "chip shot" easy broadside angle on a doe with a 165gr 30 cal. that, as far as I can tell, hit an unseen twig and deflected; if I could have found a good rest I likely would have taken a head shot.
Let us know how it works out.
Ian
Brutus
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I don't think it's very smart to advocate anything against your provincial game
laws.
This should be uppermost in anyone's mind, before you get yourself into s*&t.
Even the title of this thread smacks of irresponsible BS.
This is not the Depression, and you do not live in a province that allows this anyways.
laws.
This should be uppermost in anyone's mind, before you get yourself into s*&t.
Even the title of this thread smacks of irresponsible BS.
This is not the Depression, and you do not live in a province that allows this anyways.
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leveractionjunkie
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My friend used a .308 has for 20 some years, and no he definately is not the dead eye #### he figures he is I can assure you. It frustrates me to no end, as I try and help him dial his gun in better select accurate loads etc but it doesn't sink in. A shot to the lungs really doesn't waste much meat at all, and it works 90% of the time.
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What a completely moronic reply...
Also, here's a post from another thread that you posted in response to Swifty
Swifty says
you respond
Have nice weekend Wendy!
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So if anything smaller than a 270 is marginal for deer,what is the smallest cartridge that is not marginal for moose or elk,that weigh 3 to 4 times as much as the average deer?Personally,I consider the 25-06 or 257wby to be the ultimate deer cartridges.
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I have a few deer tags, is there a limit here in Sask on the number of non draw tags you can have if it's all legal? Couldn't find anything in the guide
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Ideal deer cartridges IMHO:
7x57
7-08
.270(various)
.280Rem
7mmRM
.30-30
.308
.30-06
.303
I am not a fan of .243, 6mm, .260, .25-06 etc... but this is only an opinion, and I'm sure you know the opinion rule.
Brutus
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We will see who the moron is when you get caught and charged.
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For southern Sask it is one whitetail either ###.
Mulie deer are draw and usually one either ### and/or 1 or 2 antlerless , depending on zone.
In the CWD areas they have a new process where by one must earn a buck tag by first getting antlerless tags, shooting does and submitting the heads for testing.
It is all in the Hunters Guide which you must already have if you are hunting birds.
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Man, you are so far out there, people that out there need a spotting scope just to see you.
Your posts are nothing but uneducated uninformed and inaccurate.
