Ontario Mega Match Idea

[bmw]

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Oh I am serious about taking on the EESA portion.........but we would need more people to step up from other clubs.

I talked to "G" at Barrie on the weekend and he seemed interested in taking on Shotgun at Barrie.

"G" knows I'll be there to help. As I'll be flying in every week for the match.

Cheers
BMW

 

[stormbringer]

I concur with Storm. However John your suggestion is not a bad one but a good one for a single club to put on a large three gun. Hope ya still come out for the match bet you will say that was worth ever dime......or if ya don't I'll buy the beer to drowned your sorrows .

Cheers
BMW

The problem with a single club doing it is the stages. Unless you have a CRAP load of ranges and can dedicate a few to each disipline you end up having to resuse stages for all three gun types.

Having three ranges over three weekends seems to eliminate all of those problems (and introduces more of its own of course).

As I have said this is only a theory at this point as we need individuals and clubs to step up to the plate to go any further.

 

[reddot]

Storm, a match like that would certainly be worth the drive.

 

[Quigley]

I like the sounds of this...including the concept of a Provincial Championships 3 Gun...

Once more of the details are inked out...we can get it on the agenda...

Great idea!!

 

[bmw]

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The problem with a single club doing it is the stages. Unless you have a CRAP load of ranges and can dedicate a few to each disipline you end up having to resuse stages for all three gun types.

Having three ranges over three weekends seems to eliminate all of those problems (and introduces more of its own of course).

As I have said this is only a theory at this point as we need individuals and clubs to step up to the plate to go any further.

Storm don't get me wrong....I concur... what I was saying was that a long weekend would be good for a single club to run a large match.

IE like Nova Scotia "AMA" is doing with there 3 Gun. 100 rds pistol, 100 rds Rifle, 100 rds Shot gun over 2 days.

With the op for a piss up on Sat night at the titty bar. WHOOOO now thats a 3 Gun.....Whhooooo..OK who's flying in I'll pick ya up...Whhhoooo

lol

Cheers
BMW

 

[badboybeeson]

i think we should all get our heads into it and make it happen.
Lets make sure it has prizes, and people like, marstar, oneshot tactical, SJ hardware, ect behind it, make it worth peopel to come out.
I still think it should be like the IPSC Nats a 4/5 day event, 2 clubs wed-sunday.
everyone can book the days off.
Both Ranges need to have lots of bathrooms, camping and hotel near buy.
ESSA would be the best range i can think of, what other big range is near by that could be used aswell/
Lets make this so big everyone in IPSC canada would want to come!!.
I,m in for range b**tch time, prizes , lending of guns gear ect!!
bbb

 

[7.62mm]

i think we should all get our heads into it and make it happen.
Lets make sure it has prizes, and people like, marstar, oneshot tactical, SJ hardware, ect behind it, make it worth peopel to come out.
I still think it should be like the IPSC Nats a 4/5 day event, 2 clubs wed-sunday.
everyone can book the days off.
Both Ranges need to have lots of bathrooms, camping and hotel near buy.
ESSA would be the best range i can think of, what other big range is near by that could be used aswell/
Lets make this so big everyone in IPSC canada would want to come!!.
I,m in for range b**tch time, prizes , lending of guns gear ect!!
bbb

Whoa, back the truck up there. As someone that just spent practically 1 day every weekend this past summer, plus the weekend before, plus every day at the actual event, getting ready for the Ontario Provincials, and shooting it, I think we are getting ahead of ourselves. I happened to be there when the germ of this idea for a 3 weekend 3 Gun started, I think I can speak for most people that are already aboard, that that is how we would like it to stay. Instead of one club looking after it, the work load is spread out, therefore lessening the pressure, and commitment, of a single club.

Personally, I think this can work, we just need a couple of other clubs to come to the table. It could be spread out over a month, month and a half. Totally doable from a Club level stand point, as you only have to look after one leg of the Shoot. Maybe I am full of it, this is only my first year in IPSC, but I can see getting burned out pretty quick, if we were to dump something like this on one club, and personally, I wouldn't support it coming to EESA for a 4 or 5 day event, not without a lot more support from other clubs and shooters. IMHO

 

[stormbringer]

, I wouldn't support it coming to EESA for a 4 or 5 day event, not without a lot more support from other clubs and shooters. IMHO

It just could not come to EESA..........that is a plain fact.

Beyond the fact that there is no way in hell anyone who is sane would agree to being MD for such a match.

The fact is there are not enough ranges. Oxford is about half an hour away they only have three ranges which would not add enough. It is still a matter of workers.

If we use 3 different clubs over 3 separate weekends you can set the stages up on the Friday and shoot it Saturday (and perhaps Sunday)

As I said that would allow the workers from any particular club to shoot their own match and not HAVE to work every match.

Certainly help from other clubs in terms of Range Officers would be needed to keep things running smoothly.

 

[badboybeeson]

well , my only point one the match at one or 2 clubs over 4/5 days is it would let people from far away come, not just a bunch of guys from within 100kms or said range.
eatherway, i,m willing to take the time off, help out, add funds do whatever is asked of me to help get somthing like this off the ground.
somthing that could be done around hear is kinston, nappane, trenton, 3 clubs with lots of room and lots of ranges, all somewhat near each other.
Kingston has a new bunker range just for steel, the bunker is 50ft wide 10ft deep.
bbb

 

[stormbringer]

But it still puts a HUGE burden on the organizers.

The orginal idea was as you suggest. But it was soon realized that it would be practically impossible. We originally were talking about a Canadian 3 gun championship event. Then reality hit and we altered course to the present suggestion (and it is still only a suggestion).

Maybe I am still a bit burnt out after Drama Daze III but there is ZERO chance that I would be involved in such an undertaking. It is just too big.

Now if Kingston area clubs want to run with it I will certainly show up to shoot....heck I would probably take a few days off to R/O.

But the problem is that organizing a SINGLE weekend event would mean taking off at least a week if not more.

 

[badboybeeson]

But it still puts a HUGE burden on the organizers.

The orginal idea was as you suggest. But it was soon realized that it would be practically impossible. We originally were talking about a Canadian 3 gun championship event. Then reality hit and we altered course to the present suggestion (and it is still only a suggestion).

Maybe I am still a bit burnt out after Drama Daze III but there is ZERO chance that I would be involved in such an undertaking. It is just too big.

Now if Kingston area clubs want to run with it I will certainly show up to shoot....heck I would probably take a few days off to R/O.

But the problem is that organizing a SINGLE weekend event would mean taking off at least a week if not more.

Well stormy, work on whatever plan will work , people like me will just plan to take 2,3 weekends off in a row.
I guess its no big deal if its planed in advance.
I cant think of anyone better to run this then you
bbb

 

[vierdo]

What if they were set up as 3 separate cumulative events? 8 stages at any given club is as much shooting as a 3 gun, members of any particular club could be allowed to shoot free if they set up / take down at their home club. This way each club focuses on their own event, if they don't feel like shooting the other 2 they don't have to, but at the end of 3 weeks the results are tallied like it was a 3 gun. Either way, if you want to shoot all 3 matches your going to end up paying for 2...that way the club admins get theirs, and everyone can focus on their own event.

p.s. I thought your shared 870 was almost too hot to touch after the shotgun portion at Barrie...next time remember tactical slugs.

 

[stormbringer]

What if they were set up as 3 separate cumulative events? 8 stages at any given club is as much shooting as a 3 gun, .

That is exactly what I propose.

members of any particular club could be allowed to shoot free if they set up / take down at their home club.

That woudl be up to individual clubs as it is their money....but I have ZERO problem with that idea.

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This way each club focuses on their own event, if they don't feel like shooting the other 2 they don't have to,

The only problem with that would be the handgun match. I would argue that those who want to shoot all three matches in the overall tournament should have priority for slots. Maybe they can sign up a week or two in advance. Then fill in with those who only want handgun??

but at the end of 3 weeks the results are tallied like it was a 3 gun. Either way, if you want to shoot all 3 matches your going to end up paying for 2...that way the club admins get theirs, and everyone can focus on their own event.

Again........not a problem as that is pretty much what I was thinking.

p.s. I thought your shared 870 was almost too hot to touch after the shotgun portion at Barrie...next time remember tactical slugs.

You can say that again.........three shooters back to back with 30 some odd rounds.......WOW!

 

[stormbringer]

Well stormy, work on whatever plan will work , people like me will just plan to take 2,3 weekends off in a row.
I guess its no big deal if its planed in advance.

Well..........remember the organizers will be taking more that that off regardless..

I cant think of anyone better to run this then you
bbb

Well we need to find at least 2 more clubs and two more MDs if this thing is going to have a chance to get off the ground.

 

[vierdo]

The only problem with that would be the handgun match. I would argue that those who want to shoot all three matches in the overall tournament should have priority for slots. Maybe they can sign up a week or two in advance. Then fill in with those who only want handgun ??

What if we were to set up all 3 matches so that the home clubs could sub in Handgun only? for their own members? If there's 8 stages to play with at each club, on any given weekend; surely there could be select stages that locals could shoot either, or both? depending if they wanted to be part of the 3 gun maga match. With the exception of the long range most stages could be shot in handgun also...

I agree with the priority status, so the out-of-towner's can shoot early and get on the road so they're home at a decent hour...especially on Sundays.

Well we need to find at least 2 more clubs and two more MDs if this thing is going to have a chance to get off the ground

'G' was up for this, I'll talk to him by Monday...As long as the handgun only people still get to shoot, who cares about the 3 match idea? Its only going to bring more shooters out.

 

[Quigley]

...if 3 gun is going to take off...it has to be 3 gun. I may be off base, but even if it's at just 1 club...you should not be able to just shoot the handgun (we have plenty of matches each year for that)

With the amount of people at 3 gun matches who are also willing to loan out equipment...anyone who wants to shoot should be able to, but shoot all 3.

 

[badboybeeson]

...if 3 gun is going to take off...it has to be 3 gun. I may be off base, but even if it's at just 1 club...you should not be able to just shoot the handgun (we have plenty of matches each year for that)

With the amount of people at 3 gun matches who are also willing to loan out equipment...anyone who wants to shoot should be able to, but shoot all 3.

iIthink your right, its 3 gun match, shoot all stages and all 3 guns in the event or save your time and wait for another ipsc pistol match.
The plan is to keep the 3 gun consept alive!
1 have 15 combat shotguns 2 ar15s so i dont think guns will be an issue.

 

[Weeman]

I must agree with 7.62 after all the time we put in at provincials we were all very burnt out.The match should be spread over 3 clubs / 3 weekends /3 gunners get first slots. If need be handgun only or for that matter rifle or shotgun only can fill any empty spots. But again there is lots of lots of sharing of equipment 3 gunners allmost all attended that portion of school when we were but young.[was going to say wee but it felt wrong considering my name] You buy your ammo I lend you my kit. NO EXCUSE NOT TO HAVE THIS MUCH FUN.

 

[stormbringer]

Looks like the new rules would determine this to be a "SUPER TOURNAMENT".

http://ipsc.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=7973&pid=80041&st=0&#entry80041

 

[ckc123]

Things to clear up that I can think of are:

Stage Design
Cost sharing?
Profit Sharing?

Storm.. you help me put the gear together for this and I'll help you out

Got the guns, just not sure of all the other stuff (Mags, Pouches, sights etc etc..)