M. Nagant: Best Milsurp Deer Rifle for <$300?

I dont' know how available brass (norma) and dies are for 7.5x55, and I don't even know if you can get Factory hunting ammunition in canada for it. You may want to take that into consideration. Aside from that 7.5x55 seems like a neat chambering for a reloader.
 
Have a Mosin in the cabinet, would never get another. The safety is terrible, and has feeding issues...... almost any other rifle is a better choice... Don't like to have to adjust the sights with a brass punch....

Either learn to operated it or sell it, as it sounds like you don't know how these rifles were designed to be used...Hence your frustration.

The safety is for the armorer not the troop under fire, sights were zeroed for 100 meters and holdover was used instead of moving the front sight about.

If you have the one with a swing out bayonet (ie an M44) then the sights were zeroed with the bayonet pointy end towards the enemy. :D

I'd hazard to guess that the Mosin in all it's forms has taken more game in Russia and Finland then any other rifle type in that part of the world.

For the record I prefer the 6.5x55 arms, but Methinks the Mosin with it's 100+ year old well battle proven history at these prices are hard to beat as an all around rugged hunting arm.
 
What how to cycle a bolt? I think I have that figured out... I actually replaced mine with a nice walnut stock from boyds, looks great if that counts.

The POI does not change on mine, whether the bayonet is extended or not... and really who wants to run around deer hunting with a bayonet extended..... the bolt easily lifts with the slightest touch and usually does not stay 100 percent closed whether there is a round in it or not. Will they work and kill game.. sure... but there are better designed rifles.

The safety is a pain in the butt, it works but its a pain to engage for a hunting rifle... and its an inconsistant feeder, replaced the mag spring twice... has nothing to do with knowing how to operate it. A Enfield is a smoother operating and better selection of ammo in Canada.... to each their own.
 
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mosins 100 year old record?-same for the swede,but my submission is for the dollar-the swede beats almost everything in the way of quality and finish-and if you want something heavier-go to the 8x57-or 9.3x57-or even 9.3x62 -same action
 
I've got a couple Swedes but never shot any game with them, but my Mosin has accounted for a deer and several bears.

The Swede is a much nicer rifle though.
 
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I know a lot of CGN members hunt with milsurps and I'd like to add a deer rifle and milsurp to my inventory at the same time. Currently I can only think of a few rifles that I can get for less than $300 taxes + shipping in, thats the budget I've set for myself

Go to the TradEx website, check the hunting and sporting rifle section.

Since you reload, there are lots of options. There are a lot of 6.5x55 rifles, a nice medium recoil and quite accurate calibre. Also, you might consider the 8x57 rifles, a cartridge that runs close to the 30-06.

There are a few things you should consider.......if you buy a Milsurp to hunt with, and want to mount a scope, you then have a couple of hundred dollars in gunsmith costs, for drilling and tapping, and bending the bolt. The Mosin Nagant safety is not the handiest one.

For well under $300, you can buy a Husqvarna Sporter, usually drilled and tapped, and bolt handle bent. These are good quality actions, and perfectly adequate for the deer, elk and even moose that you might come across.

A couple of things to consider......when Anthony describes a rifle as a Sporter, it is usually a gunsmith job, and he gives a full description of his rifles. A conservative description, and every one I have ordered from him has been a lot better than I expected.

If he says "Husqvarna Sporter", it is usually a factory rifle, and "Husqvarna Commercial Sporter" is a later action without the thumb cut in the left receiver wall. These are usually the 96 action, and are very well made.

By being a bit choosy, you can even find ones with a side safety, a very worthwhile addition. Buy one that is drilled and tapped, and a lot have the bases already installed. I would not buy one with a side mount, but that is a personal preference. Although some of these rifles are available in 30-06 or similar calibre, it is possible that feeding problems may occur due to the longer length of these cartridges if you choose a 96 action.

With the above criteria, I will give you a couple of examples. My 1930 Husqvarna 9.3x57 with Weaver bases mounted, excellent shiny barrel, and trim sporter stock cost me $240. ( This is my fun gun, and I would not recommend it because of the ammo scarcity ). The Husqvarna 1944 Commercial 8x57 with factory bent bolt, side safety, large winter bolt knob and a Tasco post and cross hair 4x scope cost me $250. A 1943 Husqvarna 6.5x55 drilled and tapped with bases, bent bolt, low swing safety and Mannlicher type stock cost $195. A Carl Gustav CG-63 target rifle, rebarreled, with bent bolt and Weaver mounts cost $185, in a slightly modified CG-63 stock. It shoots like a dream, and trigger pull is absolutely superb.

I have another 6.5x55 target rifle, and a 6.5x55 hunting rifle on the way.

That is SIX fine rifles bought from Trade Ex, and NONE of them cost me more than $250. I get fine, old world craftsmanship, finely fitted wood stocks, and classic hunting and target rifles for about 1/3 the cost of the average "new" rifle out there today. How can anyone go wrong?
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But none of those meet his criteria. He wants a FULL MILITARY CONFIGURATION RIFLE that he can still hunt with once and awhile.
 
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While I'm sure the M44 'carbine' is handier for a brush & truck rifle, I handled one of the long rifle Mosins on the weekend.... They're damn ###y with that long barrel & straight bolt! :cool:
 
While I'm sure the M44 'carbine' is handier for a brush & truck rifle, I handled one of the long rifle Mosins on the weekend.... They're damn ###y with that long barrel & straight bolt! :cool:

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I agree. :D
 
The Husqvarna 1944 Commercial 8x57 with factory bent bolt, side safety, large winter bolt knob and a Tasco post and cross hair 4x scope cost me $250. A 1943 Husqvarna 6.5x55 drilled and tapped with bases, bent bolt, low swing safety and Mannlicher type stock cost $195. A Carl Gustav CG-63 target rifle, rebarreled, with bent bolt and Weaver mounts cost $185, in a slightly modified CG-63 stock. It shoots like a dream, and trigger pull is absolutely superb.

I have another 6.5x55 target rifle, and a 6.5x55 hunting rifle on the way.

That is SIX fine rifles bought from Trade Ex, and NONE of them cost me more than $250. I get fine, old world craftsmanship, finely fitted wood stocks, and classic hunting and target rifles for about 1/3 the cost of the average "new" rifle out there today. How can anyone go wrong?

But none of those meet his criteria. He wants a FULL MILITARY CONFIGURATION RIFLE that he can still hunt with once and awhile
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Maybe after he has options he'll change his mind.

IMHO if you want to hunt get a hunting rifle that being said I hunt ALOT with an M38 but it is heavy! hang it off a shoulder for 8 or 9 hours and you'll feel it.
a no 1 mkIII is a nice full military rifle to carry.

If you plan on hunting 2 days a year for a couple years get a tradex rifle that can be cheaply scoped. You'll depriciate a collectiable milsurp more dollars by hunting with it then it'll cost you to get a tradex gun.
 
If you want to stick with full military, I'd go M44. Inexpensive, handy and powerful; you'll have to work a little to get hunting ammo, but it would be worth it. The AG42B would be a great second choice, but costs nearly twice as much, and there are less of them around, so you'd likely flinch quite a bit more when you see hunting scars on it.
 
Thanks for the input guys, its all greatly appreciated! Today I handled a K98 in .308, a 6.5x55 Mauser, several Lee Enfields, a Norc M14 and a pretty decent looking K31.

At my local shop they were all out of my price range, the only rifles that I could get for my less than $300 price range were super beat-up mosins and .22's haha. The K98, Lee Enfields and M14 were just handled out of curiousity, I don't have the money in the bank for such a rifle.

The M96 was too long for my liking, perhaps I wouldn't have minded too much if I lived out west, but where I'll be hunting the shorter the rifle the better, so now I'm looking at M38s. The K31 was wicked, although the shop didn't have any ammo handy.

One of the Lee Enfields I handled happened to be a No.5 and I really liked it, it was likely way overpriced but I have tons of supplies (brass, bullets, primers) from a previous Lee Enfield sporter I owned and I was wondering if I could expect M38 or K31 accuracy from a No.5 in the $250-$300 range? My expectation is no.
 
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