Need advise on finish of 1911 Colt

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I am having an original series 70 Colt 1911 upgraded and refinished. I am trying to decide between having it blued and finishing it with Gun Kote black. I really like the look of Kimber's line (that deep black) but I am not sure if there are any disadvantages to using Gun Kote over bluing. Your input is greatly appreciated.
 
Check out Ion Bond It comes in many colors and is super hard. Matt Burkett did a demo where he took an empty brass and rubbed it up and down the slide of a 1911 that had been coated and it never left a mark.
 
Why not parkerize it? It's by far the best overall finish and is easy to do at home (easier than bluing or gun kote)
 
Check out Ion Bond It comes in many colors and is super hard. Matt Burkett did a demo where he took an empty brass and rubbed it up and down the slide of a 1911 that had been coated and it never left a mark.
Good luck finding a Canadian gunsmith who can do the Ion Bond finish.
 
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think i am going to ask the gunsmith to get the bluing as dark as possible and leave it for a while. I guess I can always look at alternate finishes down the road when the bluing gets worn.
 
With no one to export our guns to the US we're really limited to finishes. Blue, Parkerizing, some Duracoat, and hard chrome.

Note the smith's up here can't hardchrome internal parts and insides of the frame and slide like they do in US, strictly external finish.
 
It's a Colt, high polish blued finish......
That, or pimp it out in hard crome.
Most of the "Kote's" are just paint.....fairly durable, but they will scuff, and IMHO looks cheap as hell.
 
It's a Colt, high polish blued finish......
That, or pimp it out in hard crome.
Most of the "Kote's" are just paint.....fairly durable, but they will scuff, and IMHO looks cheap as hell.

That was the answer I was looking for. It is being dehorned and blued this week. I will put up pictures when I get it back.
 
It's a Colt, high polish blued finish......

Bingo, we have a winner! ;)

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Capp325,

Rodger Kotanko explained to me that to do the inside of the frame they need to build a special jig to have electrodes touch inside of frame....small firearms community in Canada makes cost prohibitive. Also he prefers not to do internals to avoid dimensional changes.

The US hardchromers have more advanced techniques but once again, they can afford to due to huge gun market.

considering that Questar is no longer assisting one to export to US for refinishing, one can only use what's available here. They're also not doing 3rd party imports now so you can't even buy one in US, get chrome and import.

I asked Rodger to chrome my 2 P7M8's. At some point I'm going to go to US for target shooting and arrange ahead of time for Robar to strip the chrome and do NP3 hopefully while I'm there. For now the Chromed exterior will do. The stock bluing on P7's is really lousy.
 
Capp325,

Rodger Kotanko explained to me that to do the inside of the frame they need to build a special jig to have electrodes touch inside of frame....small firearms community in Canada makes cost prohibitive. Also he prefers not to do internals to avoid dimensional changes.

The US hardchromers have more advanced techniques but once again, they can afford to due to huge gun market.

considering that Questar is no longer assisting one to export to US for refinishing, one can only use what's available here. They're also not doing 3rd party imports now so you can't even buy one in US, get chrome and import.

I asked Rodger to chrome my 2 P7M8's. At some point I'm going to go to US for target shooting and arrange ahead of time for Robar to strip the chrome and do NP3 hopefully while I'm there. For now the Chromed exterior will do. The stock bluing on P7's is really lousy.
Thanks for that detailed explanation BPK99, I learned something new today.
 
... and to add to that learning process, for many years I've followed research of a ceramic finish quite ideally suited to the firearm industry by a company in North Carolina.

The finish was called Diamond Black Boron Carbide and the company is called Bodycote.
A very thin ceramic finish is applied by vapor deposition in a vacuum chamber. The coating is really tough, something crazy like 95 on the RC scale. Doesn't chip, peel, or crack and resists to really high temperatures, maybe 3000 Degrees F.

They had a proprietary surface treatment they used for preparation that in conjunction with the boron carbide coating completely eliminates corrosion.

I know there was a big following by the pistolsmith guild in the States years ago while following the the R&D of this coating. I remember the application looked like an extremely thin layer of crystelline ceramic deposit. The Navy had interest in this too as I remember.
 
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