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Case Winchester, new
Primer CCI 200 Large rifle
Powder RL-15 37.5gr
Bullet Sierra 140gr HPBT Match


I shot nine of these loads previous to this one no problem when this one was fired it went "click". There is normal carbon residue in the primer pocket. I tested some of the powder from the case (which has turned green obviously) and it burned fine from a lighter ignition source. When the powder came out of the case it was clumpy like it melted together with some individual grains.
 
My guess is a lousy primer, with not enough brisance to ignite the powder reliably. In your picture, are you saying it pushed the bullet into the lands that ¼" or so? FWIW, the primer may have been contaminated with something prior to being installed in the case. Do you handle your primers with your fingers? Some say this will have no effect, but I know otherwise. Regards, Eagleye.
 
Eagleye said:
My guess is a lousy primer, with not enough brisance to ignite the powder reliably. In your picture, are you saying it pushed the bullet into the lands that ¼" or so? FWIW, the primer may have been contaminated with something prior to being installed in the case. Do you handle your primers with your fingers? Some say this will have no effect, but I know otherwise. Regards, Eagleye.
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Yes bullet was stuck in the barrel by ~1/4 inch, typically I don't touch the primers except if they need to be flipped in the primer tray and then it's only with my finger tip.
 
Sounds like the primer ignited but the powder didn't any possibility that there was liquid in the case before you dropped you powder or that is got wet after?

Powder will clump when it gets wet...
 
bear.23 said:
Sounds like the primer ignited but the powder didn't any possibility that there was liquid in the case before you dropped you powder or that is got wet after?

Powder will clump when it gets wet...
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There is the slightest possibility the charge could have been contaminated by water. I had inadvertently charged three cases that I had cleaned and rinsed but had not primed. I dumped the powder from these cases and burned it off, however I may have transferred one of the charges to a new primed case, then I thought that it wasn't a good idea. I don't remember if I dumped that case as well or just the other ones... It's a good thing I had the sense at least to stop shooting and examine the bore after the cartridge in question here, or... kaboom I'm sure.

When the powder gets wet does it stick when dried or fall apart into individual grains?
 
daroccot said:
There is the slightest possibility the charge could have been contaminated by water. I had inadvertently charged three cases that I had cleaned and rinsed but had not primed. I dumped the powder from these cases and burned it off, however I may have transferred one of the charges to a new primed case, then I thought that it wasn't a good idea. I don't remember if I dumped that case as well or just the other ones... It's a good thing I had the sense at least to stop shooting and examine the bore after the cartridge in question here, or... kaboom I'm sure.

When the powder gets wet does it stick when dried or fall apart into individual grains?
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Most extruded powders will cake and then shatter when dried and dumped...
 
well it sounds like I must of had water in the case... Now to put a wooden dowel in the rifle case so if this happens again it won't end the day's shooting.
 
I have had more failure to fire with cci than all others combined,I stopped using them except for the odd range trip. The cci benchrest primers seem to be better,but I am not going to ever hunt with them.
 
The only time I have seen powder get like that was when it had gotten damp inside the case. I don't think the primer had anything to do with it. The primer had enough power to launch the bullet into the barrel. It should have lit the powder if the powder was in good shape.
 
I have never had this happen with a rifle reload but have experienced much the same with a 20ga shotshell.

My problem was a spent shell that I picked up from a snowy field & mixed in with the others for reloading.

I reloaded them the same evening & next time on the skeet field had a misfire. I tore the shell open & found clumped powder & a primer that failed to ignite. :redface::redface::D

I would think your problem was also caused by moisture.
 
I'm pretty sure your powder didn't turn green, thats its natural colour, it's only black/grey because of graphite powder they use to facilitate handling fwiw
 
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