.223 barrel reamed to 5.56/.223 Wylde

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.223 barrel reamed to 5.56/.223 Wylde




Anyone do this or using a .223 Wylde barrel? Reason I'm asking is my soon to arrive R15 is stamped .223 and I would like to open it up.


Safety is paramount you know. My kids are gonna love it :dancingbanana:
 
Nester:

Cassey down at TacOrd knows his way arround an AR as well and has the 223 Wylde reamer as well.

It is my understanding that the .223 Wylde is the way to go from a accuracy stand point.

YMMV

regards

AbH
 
Nester:

Cassey down at TacOrd knows his way arround an AR as well and has the 223 Wylde reamer as well.

It is my understanding that the .223 Wylde is the way to go from a accuracy stand point.

YMMV

regards

AbH
Actually that is not true the issue lies with the type of ammunition that one is using in there rifle. That being said if you are shooting SS 109 62 gr or heavier up to the Mk262 Mod 1 (77gr smk) the 5.56 chamber offers the best accuracy .Bullets that have a lower BC will shoot deliver better results in the Wyde chamber or the 223 Saami chamber .

The differences in the chambers are as follows

Chamber------Neck Dia.------Frebore Dia.-----Throat angle-----Headspace

.223 SAAMI ----.254----------.2240/.2245-----3.1 degrees------1.4636

.223WYLDE----.256/.257--------.2240---------1.25 degrees------1.4636

5.56 NATO------.255---------.2265/.2270------1.25 degrees------1.4636

FYI WYLDE chamber was created by Bill Wylde to allow competitive shooters to use longer bullets in there 223 SAAMI chambered rifles.
Your results may vary but tests that have been conducted have used factory ammuntion the use of handloads can greatly increase the accuracy of your rifle .
 
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FYI WYLDE chamber was created by Bill Wylde to allow competitive shooters to use longer bullets in there 223 SAAMI chambered rifles.
Your results may vary but tests that have been conducted have used factory ammuntion the use of handloads can greatly increase the accuracy of your rifle .

Do believe that this is incorrect. IIRC Bill Wylde created the .223 Wylde chamber in the late 80's specifically to improve the accuracy of IVI C77 ball ammo in Canadian service rifle matches because you had to use issued ammo back then. C77 ball is the same as NATO ss109.
 
Do believe that this is incorrect. IIRC Bill Wylde created the .223 Wylde chamber in the late 80's specifically to improve the accuracy of IVI C77 ball ammo in Canadian service rifle matches because you had to use issued ammo back then. C77 ball is the same as NATO ss109.

While I agree that IVI C77 is SS109 ,The rest is utter nonsense did the issue C7 or C8 rifles come with 223 SAAMI barrels or the 5.56 NATO barrels ? 5.56 NATO and it shoots the C77/SS109 ammunition delivers better accuracy than the WYLDE cut chamber ,It is impossible to cut the WYLDE chamber in the 5.56 NATO chamber .Remember that the majority of AR's sold in Canada had the 5.56 barrels . Until recently like this year only .223 SAAMI chambered AR's are more prevalent .
Bill Wylde is an American Gunsmith that designed the chamber for use in the NRA Highpower Rifle Match's the WYLDE chamber is best utilized shooting 80 gr + VLD bullets
 
.223 barrel reamed to 5.56/.223 Wylde




Anyone do this or using a .223 Wylde barrel? Reason I'm asking is my soon to arrive R15 is stamped .223 and I would like to open it up.


Safety is paramount you know. My kids are gonna love it :dancingbanana:


Is it possible your barrel will already be to 5.56 spec. and just stamped .223?
Personally, I'd never bother reaming - I'd just buy a spare barrel....
 
While we are waiting for Bill Wylde to chime in, I found this;

Posted By: Bill Wylde
Date: Thursday, 13 November 2003, at 8:46 a.m.

In Response To: Re: .223 Wylde

The case dimensions of the Wylde reamer are that of one of the NATO prints. Not a thing tight about it. As I recall, there were two NATO prints in use. I don't recall the print number used, but do have it in old records somewhere.

Throating was about the only change. The decision was made to make the freebore diameter .2240" as a good bullet seal. That done, excess freebore made little difference to accuracy. One of the reasons the magazine length 69's shot so well in the chamber. It so happened that the 80 grain Sierra seated to the lands was about ideal at .2470" OAL. Simple luck.....All of it.

The initial reamer(designed in 1984)was mainly geared toward Canadian 5.56 ball, as I was experimenting with their issue ball for competitive purposes. This operation was slow in getting off the ground, and really didn't start happening until about 1990. The use of 5.56 NATO ball in Canada was a short lived affair. Handloads were allowed in about 1994.

Just prior to this time the AR's were gaining great strength in the U.S. The military finally got involved. The rest is history.

You might ask how the the 62 grain 5.56 ball worked for Canadian LR prone shooting to 1,000 yds? It was supersonic in barrels of 28", and longer. It also was very competitive with the 147 grain 7.62 ball in use there at the time. The wind drift differential at long range (7.62/5.56) was about 15% in favor of the 7.62.

Those days were very interesting.

Original thread can be found here:http://http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=52286

Savage, I'm ready to accept your apology.:wave:

ETA: Found this as well:http://http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250529&highlight=.223+wylde

So while the chamber does do well with the longer bullets, it sounds like it was just a happy coincidence when designing a better chamber for IVI.
 
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Leg I owe you an aplogy and I stand corrected It was more or less designed for Target Rifle .How ever the reason why WYLDE chambered AR Barrels are prohibited from to be exported from the US baffles .
 
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As I understand it, only barrels with a real SAAMI .223 chamber are exportable these days. And if a mfr. is caught exporting barrels stamped .223 with 5.56x45 chambers, they could be in deep doodoo. Running a Wylde reamer in might not be a bad idea, particularly if NATO ball or heavy bullet handloads are going to be used.
If the bore is chromed, reaming might be problematic, though.
 
Walt, are you saying that .223 Wylde chambers aren't importable?

I thought it was only 5.56mm and 7.62 that were banned for export.
 
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