Just venting!

I think that the term "anyone" is implied to mean the person who shot/harvested the animal/fish.
It does not refer to the property owner who finds a dead game animal.
Theft...never. Trespassing...yes
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Of course that is only your interpretation.There is a huge difference between a property owner finding an abandoned carcass,and a property owner preventing a legally killed animal from being recovered in order to comply with the regulations.

.But the land which they inhabit is own farm. Do you want to recover your deer...ASK PERMISSION. Simple
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Did the woman in question ask for permission before entering property which she didn't own in order to confront the hunters?If not,she trespassed.On the other hand ,she invited the hunters onto her property to show her the deer,so they did not trespass.
 
you have the right to retrieve it but will need officials to do it, they will have the right to tresspass and secure that deer. the land owner is powerless against that, fish and game supercede it all and will back the hunters to get their game.
 
In B.C hunting regs - it is unlawful:

Quote; "17. to kill wildlife (with the exception of
grizzly bear, cougar or a fur bearing
animal other than a black bear) and fail
to remove from the carcass the edible
portions of the four quarters and loins
to the person’s normal dwelling place or
to a meat cutter or the owner or
operator of a cold storage plant.

18. to interfere with or obstruct a person
licensed or permitted to hunt, guide or
trap while that person is lawfully so
engaged."

Ask permission to retrive game from private property. If she gave you permission to kill (finish) the animal on her property, then cut your tag and retrieve the game. Let her object all she wants. Refer doubting CO's to section 18 above.
 
If all of you think its OK to trespass to retrieve game...go ahead and do it but you are going to be charged with trespassing. Have you ever heard of PROPERTY RIGHTS. :confused:
What is the point of posting land, when all everyone has to do is claim that they are retrieving/pursuing injured game. It would be a free for all. :mad: Like the regs state
" a hunting license does not give hunters the right to enter or cross private property". The CO will try to negotiate a deal between the hunter and landowner.
They will not take sides, nor do they have the right to force the landowner to allow retrieval of an animal.
 
stubblejumper said:
This being the case,the woman should have to either let the hunters take the deer,or tag the deer herself and dress it out before it spoils.By doing neither,would the woman not be in violation of this regulation?
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In Alberta, if you shoot an animal and it enters land you don't have permission on, call a C0. They will either advise you to retrieve the animal or be there when you retrieve it.
It is illegal for someone to place their tag on any wildlife killed by another person in Alberta. And it is illegal to be in possession of any big game without the proper tags, licenses, or bill of lading from the tag holder.
It is also illegal to shoot any big game and let it go to waste.
Bottom line, in Alberta in a situation like this call a CO.
 
Trespassing or not I owe it to that animal to retrieve it. When she wakes up in the morning the deer would be gone... in my garage. People like that just piss me off, what a B!tch.
 
pharaoh2 said:
As far as I know, you have the right to retrieve a downed animal. If she made a stink, the fish cops should back you on that.
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No, they won't. They won't be any happier than you are, but they cannot force the woman to allow you on her land. Was the land posted? If it was, you probably should have taken the deers proximity to the fence into account.
 
2fat2fly said:
No, they won't. They won't be any happier than you are, but they cannot force the woman to allow you on her land. Was the land posted? If it was, you probably should have taken the deers proximity to the fence into account.
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Exactly!!! I tell people to think of a fenceline as a 3000ft cliff. Would you shoot at an animal if they were perched on the edge of a cliff?:confused:
If it runs one way fine, but the other and you are SOL.
It is your fault for taking the risk of loosing the animal.:mad:

And people who trespass REALLY piss me off.:kickInTheNuts:
 
CO's can do what they want, and I wish I did not have to hunt in Ontario. These people from Toronto move out here buy a farm and ##### about country life.
 
beaverfur said:
CO's can do what they want, and I wish I did not have to hunt in Ontario. These people from Toronto move out here buy a farm and ##### about country life.
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No they cannot. They cannot trespass without permision from the land owner unless it is to enforce hunting regulations like shooting from a vehicle or other offenses visible from outside the private land. That's one of the reasons they scout from the air.
 
Oh ya two weeks ago two OPP cars did three laps around the house between my daughters swing set and the house, they did not ask. And the CO's just went on my neighbors farm and dropped in on there hunting party in four low across the field, they did not ask first. lol. That is what they do.
 
beaverfur said:
Oh ya two weeks ago two OPP cars did three laps around the house between my daughters swing set and the house, they did not ask. And the CO's just went on my neighbors farm and dropped in on there hunting party in four low across the field, they did not ask first. lol. That is what they do.
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And that's why they have a complaints department. They may do it, but it isn't legal UNLESS they witness something from public access land.
 
The biggest problem here is the Fu(kheads who poach, tresspass, litter, damage property and perform all other ignorant acts while hunting that mess it up for the rest of us:mad:. My tolerance level with anyone hunting around my property is NONE. In the preceding years during hunting season neighbors have had thefts, property damage, fences cut, cattle gates left open, shots towards homes, pets and livestock shot and left for dead etc... etc.... How are we supposed to know who is a good guy and needs a break and who is just another ignorant piece of sh1t who needs his a$$ kicked???????:confused:
I think it sucks you were not able to retrieve your animal but like the (few) punks who shoot up the streets and give us gun owners a bad name the above mentioned F*******s give us hunters a bad name also:mad:
Pete GUN OWNER and HUNTER:)
 
sjemac said:
More so than people who would shrug it off, leave it to rot, and go shoot another animal somewhere else?
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I would call the comparison equal it terms of disgust.:mad:

The point is KNOW your hunting area and adjoining landowners position on recovering animals FIRST....BEFORE you pull the trigger. When in doubt DON'T shoot.
 
beefman said:
I would call the comparison equal it terms of disgust.:mad:

The point is KNOW your hunting area and adjoining landowners position on recovering animals FIRST....BEFORE you pull the trigger. When in doubt DON'T shoot.
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We used to hunt a quarter that adjoined the quarter of a guy who HATED hunters, hunting and anything associated with it. He shot over our heads once while we were duck hunting on "his" end of the lake (the water is owned by the Crown). That he didn't want us on his land was clear. That he didn't own the land 3 inches to the west of his fence was also clear. We hunted deer there for 5 years and shot more than a few. We never shot onto his land and never shot close to his land. We never even set foot on his land EVER.

BUT, had I shot a deer and it had made its way to his side to die, I would have tracked and retrieved it without talking to him because I already know his stance on the issue.

Had I been caught I would have paid the fine and taken the consequences with no complaint. For me, my priorities put retrieving the animal above the potential annoyance of a land owner who sees some footprints and some drag marks in the snow on his side of the fence.

Thankfully, I have never been put in that position.
 
hemidart said:
The biggest problem here is the Fu(kheads who poach, tresspass, litter, damage property and perform all other ignorant acts while hunting that mess it up for the rest of us:mad:. My tolerance level with anyone hunting around my property is NONE. In the preceding years during hunting season neighbors have had thefts, property damage, fences cut, cattle gates left open, shots towards homes, pets and livestock shot and left for dead etc... etc.... How are we supposed to know who is a good guy and needs a break and who is just another ignorant piece of sh1t who needs his a$$ kicked???????:confused:
I think it sucks you were not able to retrieve your animal but like the (few) punks who shoot up the streets and give us gun owners a bad name the above mentioned F*******s give us hunters a bad name also:mad:
Pete GUN OWNER and HUNTER:)
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Right on. Some of the same experiences here.

Same type of idiots in another thread think it would be cool to shoot escaped livestock (fallow deer), instead of trying to assist the farmer in recovering them. You never know what these guys will blast/destroy once they get on your land.

And they wonder why many farmers/landowners don't want armed fools on their property.

As for the original post, I would have gone to the MNR, and one way or another found out what her motivations were. I also would have had her served a tresspass notice to keep her snooping butt off my hunting ground.
 
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