H&R topper trap gun

I don't like the idea of a hammer in a trap gun. We had one go off by accident the other night. When the persons thumb slipped while cocking. It put a one foot divot in the grass in front of them. Might be worth a look if it was hammerless.
 
I personally like the Baikal and was considering it when I used to shoot clays.

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I think it was under $300
 
bill c68 said:
I personally like the Baikal and was considering it when I used to shoot clays.

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I think it was under $300
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That's a little on the ugly side. A better bet might be a nice used BT99. Great guns with very few problems. I have seen nice ones go for just under $600.
 
The Russian singleshot Trap gun is very light, tends to not swing as well, and recoil comes into play,esp. if shooting a couple hundred shells at a time. In all fairness, it does fit well and sets up like a trapgun should(bead/barrel orientation). I'd skip both the Russian and the HR(due to cocking hammer) if you want anything serious at all, and go with a used BT99, as someone else suggested or a Beretta Semi Trapgun, though a little more money. I wonder if TC ever though of offering a Trap Barrel for their Encore?(although it still would have a hammer)
 
1bigrn said:
Has anyone tried a H&R topper trap gun. It looks quite nice andis priced right. what do you think.
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotguns/toppertrap.asp
thanks,
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That looks like a nice gun. I've borrowed and used my buddies ten gauge NEF, and had the hammer slip more than once. It was early spring and we were often wearing mittens.

No accidental discharges.

The NEF's have a half #### notch that catches the hammer if you slip, much like every modern firearm I know of, and most antique firearms.

If I had to guess about the second post down, I'd say someone had their finger on the trigger, and/or was trying to decock a loaded gun....badly.

I liked his single shot boomstick, it was light and handled easily for a ten gauge. I've been thinking about getting a single shot ever since, and now I know which one I might get next summer when I'm not so broke.(university student).

Baikal is actually a lake, not scrap metal. It's fairly large surface area wise, but is so incredibly (1.6 kilometers) deep that it's the largest freshwater lake on the planet, by volume. It contains more water than all of the great lakes combined. Pretty neat.
 
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Bobby Ironsights said:
If I had to guess about the second post down, I'd say someone had their finger on the trigger, and/or was trying to decock a loaded gun....badly.
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Probably a pretty good guess. I started trap recently with a single shot Iver Johnson, after not having shot a hammer gun for many years, and it went off on me during decocking once. I didn't have my finger on the trigger either, though I believe this can happen. At one time there were more than a few accidents in the field due to guns with hammers. It's not that one can't shoot safely with them. But I feel there is a greater chance of a person making a mistake with them in marginal conditions like heavy bush, fatigue, cold weather, crossing fences in the field, decocking and so on. My dad hunted for years with a double that had hammers and he cursed it every day we went out. I still like how they look, but it's definitely alternative designs for me.
 
Probably a pretty good guess. I started trap recently with a single shot Iver Johnson, after not having shot a hammer gun for many years, and it went off on me during decocking once. I didn't have my finger on the trigger either, though I believe this can happen.

BCFRED: I am not trying to be a smart-a$$, but how can you de-#### a hammer gun without having your finger on the trigger??:confused:
 
kjohn said:
Probably a pretty good guess. I started trap recently with a single shot Iver Johnson, after not having shot a hammer gun for many years, and it went off on me during decocking once. I didn't have my finger on the trigger either, though I believe this can happen.

BCFRED: I am not trying to be a smart-a$$, but how can you de-#### a hammer gun without having your finger on the trigger??:confused:
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X2 :confused:
 
All of the single shot hammer guns I have ever seen (and many doubles as well) allow you to open the gun with the hammer cocked. It is pretty hard to have an accidental discharge with the gun broken open. Open the gun, decock (or ####), never a problem. I have a double hammer gun that I carry with the hammers cocked, gun broken open. If a bird flushes, the gun gets closed on the way to the shoulder. On some doubles, cocked hammers interfere with the top lever making this technique impossible, but that never happens on a single shot. Think about it.

Sharptail
 
Apologies. You guys are right. I went back and read my post and am not sure why I said what I did. I quit using the gun because you couldn't decock it without putting your finger on the trigger. Again my apologies. Fred
 
BCFred said:
Apologies. You guys are right. I went back and read my post and am not sure why I said what I did. I quit using the gun because you couldn't decock it without putting your finger on the trigger. Again my apologies. Fred
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That's what I like about you Fred. You don't stand firm on your own mistakes.
Good shooting to you!
 
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