I just went back and had a look at the picture of my elk and there was in fact a large exit wound thru the rib cage. I took a pic of the animal field dressed and I can see a fist sized hole plain as day so I guess it did smash thru but I did not have any excessive meat damage...
Flight 140 TTSX
- Thread starter chuck nelson
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That was a special case...168 TSX at really fast out of a RUM at under 40 yards....Judging on the damage done by 165 NBT's on coyotes and the like he'd of been a lot uglier if shot with anything but a copper bullet...
And the exit side wasn't as bad......
The entrance looked worse than the picture showed....The flash really illuminated the blood because I couldn't get far enough away with the camera. The exit hole side is almost the same as the entrance for bloodshoot looking meat. Both entire front quarters were edible.
And the exit side wasn't as bad......
The entrance looked worse than the picture showed....The flash really illuminated the blood because I couldn't get far enough away with the camera. The exit hole side is almost the same as the entrance for bloodshoot looking meat. Both entire front quarters were edible.
What a mess!!!
RiverOtter
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Chuck shot his deer at under 400 yards; that's not exactly stretching the capabilities of a 140 TTSX from a 280 AI.
Shot placement could have been better, Chuck stated so himself; chit happens....
Shot placement could have been better, Chuck stated so himself; chit happens....
I've got 2 TSX bullets that have been recovered form deer..both shot by my buddy...I was in attendence for one skinning, not the other.
One is a 180gr TSX from a 300 RUM, ( I handloaded it) shot front shoulder to rear end.
The other is a 85gr TSX shot through both shoulders of a good blacktail, ended up on the hide.
Both look like the picture ads from Barnes.
From what I understand, the TTSX is an attempt to make the TSX more steamlined, and I suppose that putting the tip in there would initiate expansion at lower velocitiies better than a hollowpoint.
This may or my not be correct.......GRIN
.....LAFFIN HERE
One is a 180gr TSX from a 300 RUM, ( I handloaded it) shot front shoulder to rear end.
The other is a 85gr TSX shot through both shoulders of a good blacktail, ended up on the hide.
Both look like the picture ads from Barnes.
From what I understand, the TTSX is an attempt to make the TSX more steamlined, and I suppose that putting the tip in there would initiate expansion at lower velocitiies better than a hollowpoint.
This may or my not be correct.......GRIN
.....LAFFIN HERE
RiverOtter
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The tip also doubles as a guard against nasty fur that clogs hollow points and prevents expansion......
This is especially true in gravel, where sand fills the nose cavity and prevents the petals from opening.
Laffin'..............(Still)
Morning Gates...
This is especially true in gravel, where sand fills the nose cavity and prevents the petals from opening.
Laffin'..............(Still)
Morning Gates...
I suppose a good test for your fur theory clogging small hollow point cavities would be shooting a deer with a SMK....Very small hollow point opening very easily clogged with fur..........Should make for minimal meat loss with a .308 diameter bullet pencilling through a deer....Eat right up to the hole...
I don't think so. I tried to replicate that shot on a Mule Deer doe today at 75 yds (and did a pretty good job of it). The reaction, escape, exit wound and wound channel where almost identical.
Conclusion: Shot placement is king.
RiverOtter
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Who'd a thunk......grin
I've only recovered one - 168 grain tsx 30 cal at about 2300 fps at impact near as i can figure and it's a perfect barnes picture as well, except the 'flower' the petals make is tilted to one side (clipped some bone along the way i guess - but just brisket or ribs). Taken from the offside hide.
The barnes tech i talked to said he'd expect it to open properly at any impact speed on game above 1800 fps, and he'd expect the petals to start coming off at impact speeds of about 3000 or above. (that's just for the 30 cals, other calibre barnes tsx's may be different for all i know.)
Boomer, for what it's worth I enjoyed reading your bullet comments. As for all the other "chit" I could do without that . Post whores?
Here is a photo of actual Barnes bullet performance on deer with a .357 Hornaday bullet also recovered from a deer.
The bullet on the left is an unfired 130gr .270 Barnes TSX. The bullet to the right of it is an identical bullet recovered from the deer I shot a few days ago. Third from the left is a 115gr .270 Barnes TSX bullet recovered from the sand berm at the range. Notice the bent shank. The bullet on the right is a .357 Hornaday pistol bullet fired from my friends Winchester 94 Trapper. Shot was from about 30M, the deer traveled about 20M before expiring. Bullet was recovered inside the ribcage.
The recovered .270 Barnes bullet entered the neck ahead of the right shoulder, traveled 28" through the bucks body & ended up under the skin in front of the left hip. The buck dropped on the spot! This is the only Barnes bullet I have recovered from a game animal.
. Post whores?Here is a photo of actual Barnes bullet performance on deer with a .357 Hornaday bullet also recovered from a deer.
The bullet on the left is an unfired 130gr .270 Barnes TSX. The bullet to the right of it is an identical bullet recovered from the deer I shot a few days ago. Third from the left is a 115gr .270 Barnes TSX bullet recovered from the sand berm at the range. Notice the bent shank. The bullet on the right is a .357 Hornaday pistol bullet fired from my friends Winchester 94 Trapper. Shot was from about 30M, the deer traveled about 20M before expiring. Bullet was recovered inside the ribcage.
The recovered .270 Barnes bullet entered the neck ahead of the right shoulder, traveled 28" through the bucks body & ended up under the skin in front of the left hip. The buck dropped on the spot! This is the only Barnes bullet I have recovered from a game animal.
