Wounded a running deer :-(

Good for you Lookout, for trying and learning. You're free to do that.:D

Now lets just entertain ourselves with stumble jumper for a moment...

A running deer at under 100 yards and making a kill, is about the same risk of wounding as a 400 yd shot in the prone or tree limb type of shot with a 300 RUM on a standing animal.
The critter can easily and prolly will move between pulling the trigger and bullet flight and impact:eek:

Never mind wind or angled up or down shot or human error.

Tell us all about you're guilty conscience, stubbles?....
 
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A running deer at under 100 yards and making a kill, is about the same risk of wounding as a 400 yd shot in the prone or tree limb type of shot with a 300 RUM on a standing animal.
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Perhaps for you,but not for many people.If that was the case,we would both use about the same amount of ammunition to fill our tags.You yourself posted that twenty rounds is not enough for you to hunt deer for a week,yet,I didn't fire twenty shots at big game in the last five years,despite filling over a dozen tags.

The critter can easily and prolly will move between pulling the trigger and bullet flight and impact
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It is possible,but unless the trigger makes a very loud noise when pulled,or you move a great deal more than most people when you pull the trigger,it isn't very likely that the deer will suddenly move during that less than 1/2 a second that the bullet is in the air.
 
Ok we get it Stubble!
Your the exception in every hunting situation that has ever gone bad.Your above making any mistakes just sent hear to spread the gospel about your hunting prowess.Mr Peferction-----SUPER HUNTER.

OR---- you are an armchair hunter who gets all his hunting experience from video games,and hunting shows.

There are ones who come on here to ask for advice,share stories,give advice.Help each other out in general.Then there are others(you) who just like to beat up on others spewing chit.I am just glad it's typed out,and we don't have to hear your boobery in person.

GIVE IT A REST ALREADY,AND LET THE GROWN UPS CONVERSE!
 
stubblejumper said:
It is possible,but unless the trigger makes a very loud noise when pulled,or you move a great deal more than most people when you pull the trigger,it isn't very likely that the deer will suddenly move during that less than 1/2 a second that the bullet is in the air.
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It's now painfully apparent it's not only hunters that are smarter around here but also the game animals ;)
 
Good thread and a lot of good points.

As a much younger hunter I spent a tortured night in a deer camp with a calculator trying to figure how I missed 4 shots on a running deer across an open field.
280 yards, flat hard pasture with a foot of snow, running perpindicular.
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I am not going to do the calcs again but as I recall it was somewhere around 16 feet lead required. I had lead him about 4-6 feet.( Any good time/distance/velocity charts out there?).

I eventually came to the conclusion that it was a shot I would not try again. At that range too many variables and too hard to practise, way too high of a risk of a terrible wound resulting.

I like to think I would keep a running shot under 100 yards and less han 50 would be much better.
 
I had lead him about 4-6 feet.
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And this is precisely why it takes a skilled person to hit running game. You had about a 2' aiming area to hit the center of an 18" kill zone. Not only does the shooter have to calculate the lead quickly, he should calculate the center of that lead. Tough to do on what is essentially wide open air!

For those that can and do this, it becomes more of a second nature type thing, something akin to point shooting. Much less chance for error in the distances involved in shooting in dense woods, I suspect the success rates of those that got their animal at "300yards at a flat out run, just as it bounded over the fence!" to be not as high as some would believe. I would clarify that last statement by stating there would be less chance for error as far as calculating lead, however the time to calculate that lead could be very short!

Like I said, not for me, but to those who have mastered the art, kudos!
 
Your the exception in every hunting situation that has ever gone bad.Your above making any mistakes just sent hear to spread the gospel about your hunting prowess.
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I have made my share of mistakes,but unlike some people,I have learned from those mistakes,so I don't keep repeating them.

.Then there are others(you) who just like to beat up on others spewing chit.
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People spewing chit deserve to get set straight.So stop being the one spewing chit,and you won't get beat on.:rolleyes:

I am just glad it's typed out,and we don't have to hear your boobery in person.
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I am just as glad that I am not hunting in the same area as people like yourself.
 
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stubblejumper said:
I am just as glad that I am not hunting in the same area as people like yourself.
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Back at you, you would be kicked out of every camp that would host you, there is no place for such opinionated people with no desire to learn or improve what skills you might have?? You can continue to hunt (ALONE I bet ;)) with no hope to improve on your 100% success rate :rolleyes:, none of the rest of us can hope to compete with your vast skill & knowledge gained behind your computor ;)
 
Back at you, you would be kicked out of every camp that would host you, there is no place for such opinionated people with no desire to learn or improve what skills you might have??You can continue to hunt (ALONE I bet ) with no hope to improve on your 100% success rate
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Actually,I hunt with four different groups,depending on what we are hunting and where we are hunting.Most of us have hunted together for many years.We all hunt in slightly different ways,but we all respect the game that we hunt,and follow the regulations.We have all also learned from each other,and it has made us all better hunters.

none of the rest of us can hope to compete with your vast skill & knowledge gained behind your computor
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I have never claimed to be the best hunter in the woods,and I don't claim to be that now,but I have been hunting for 36 years,in several provinces and states,for ten different species of big game,as well as waterfowl,and upland game.I have stand hunted,still hunted,used dogs,used drives,as well as other methods,so I do have some experience as far as different hunting methods are concerned.I have been very fortunate to learn about the various species and how to hunt them from some very experienced,and well respected people.These people have much more experience than myself and most other people on these forums as far as the game they hunt,and the ways that they hunt that game.These were certainly not people that just march through the woods flinging lead at any animal that moves in the hope that they might get lucky and hit an animal well enough to find it,unlike some people that post on these forums.I have learned a lot about hunting and shooting over the years,and I still hope to learn much more,but I won't hunt with people that fire more misses or wounding shots than clean kills,because those people aren't the people that I consider worth learning from.
 
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:evil: That's to give them BC guys a sporting chance. They can't shoot worth a damn, they use tiny sub-caliber bullets and they dress funny.

The long season just gives them a chance to feel good about themselves.:evil:
 
7mmlefty said:
A running deer at under 100 yards and making a kill, is about the same risk of wounding as a 400 yd shot in the prone or tree limb type of shot with a 300 RUM on a standing animal.
The critter can easily and prolly will move between pulling the trigger and bullet flight and impact:eek:

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I don't know about that...

From prone with a bipod or backpack for a rest, I can shoot into the kill zone of a deer all day long.

But I can't break 25 clays consistently at trap, using a shotgun.:)

I bet many running deer get shot in the ass.;)


For the sake of argument, it woudl be interesting to see who is more comfortable shooting at a 8" target using:

A properly set up rifle, shooting prone at 400 yards (stationary target)

Offhand, shooting at a moving target at 100 yards.
 
joe-nwt said:
:evil: That's to give them BC guys a sporting chance. They can't shoot worth a damn, they use tiny sub-caliber bullets and they dress funny.

The long season just gives them a chance to feel good about themselves.:evil:
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;)


I don't think BC is ever closed for hunting something, except perhaps in July.

Aug 1 brings sheep season, Aug 15 elk and moose open, Spt deer opens...December there is still some deer hunting, and cat and dog seasons are still open, rigth through to April, when bear season opens until June 30...
 
Can peopel also include thier location and what kind of terrain they hunt in?
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As well as the cartridge being used.If the cartridge happens to be a 30-30,it makes a 400 yard shot on a game animal a very poor choice due to very little remaining energy at 400 yards.
 
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As well as the cartridge being used.If the cartridge happens to be a 30-30,it makes a 400 yard shot on a game animal a very poor choice due to very little remaining energy at 400 yards.
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Yes, but I specified a "properly set up" rifle...

By that I mean the rifle and cartridge are capable of doing the job. The wildcard is the shooter.;)
 
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