It was 0 degrees today,with 20kmph to 30kmph winds when I arrived at the range.I fired three five shot groups with Varget and 175gr Matchkings,and one five shot group with Varget and 168gr Matchkings.The groups ranged from just under 1/2" to about 1",but the wind and cold were definitely a factor,as I did pull a couple of shots that opened up two of the groups.I feel confident that with calm conditions,and warmer temperatures,I will be able to get this gun to shoot consistently around 1/2 moa.I did also notice that pressure signs appeared at what should have been fairly mild loads.I am thinking that this may be due to the Lapua brass being slightly thicker than other brass.In all likelyhood,the temperatures will soon drop to much colder levels,and I will not be doing any more load development until spring,but it is good to see that the gun does show some potential.
Finally tested the 700-5R milspec
- Thread starter stubblejumper
- Start date
Thanks for the range report, I have a 5R stashed at work, will prob be my next aquizition. Whats on yours for glass and mounts?
Glad to hear others are also have good accuracy with their 5R rifles. I'm very happy with mine. But like yourself I'm in a fairly cold climate with lots of wind. It's tough finding days when I can shoot. Right now I'm pretty much stuck with indoor shooting, unless it warms up again like today 
. I'm in the Peace Region. A ways from Fort Mac but not that far.
By the way we need more details. Pics help too. What scope, rings etc? stock trigger or lowered? What did you think of the stock, trigger etc?
. I'm in the Peace Region. A ways from Fort Mac but not that far. By the way we need more details. Pics help too
. What scope, rings etc? stock trigger or lowered? What did you think of the stock, trigger etc?I am using the stock trigger adjusted to 2-1/2 lbs.It is very consistent at that weight and can't be made to fire without pulling the trigger.I don't like the huge swell at the pistol grip nearly as much as I like my mcmillans,but I don't find it that awkward.If I am able to get good accuracy at longer ranges,I will keep shooting the rifle as is,if not,it will be trued,bedded,and rebarreled.
I bore sighted the rifle,fired one five shot group at 100 yards,adjusted the scope 3-1/2" horizontally,and 3" vertically,and it is dead center at 100 yards with the 175gr matchkings,slightly low with the 168gr matchkings.
I bore sighted the rifle,fired one five shot group at 100 yards,adjusted the scope 3-1/2" horizontally,and 3" vertically,and it is dead center at 100 yards with the 175gr matchkings,slightly low with the 168gr matchkings.
Last edited:
Glad to hear its shooting right out of the box. heard lots of good stuff about the NF's but I can buy Leupolds factory direct so kind of hard to justify the extra coin. Thinkin I might go with near mounts, gotta support those canuk companies
For the small price difference to the average consumer,I could not justify not trying a Nightforce.I used to have Leupolds on every rifle,but I now own only one,and that one isn't used for big game hunting.I find them too expensive compared to other scopes that offer the same quality and features.
5r!!
Glad to hear your is working out for you , I had mine out yesterday and shot it out at 300 Meters for the first time , I was shooting five three shot string's, groups ranged from .875 " to 1.00 " , I was also fighting a wind and cool temperatures , i feel that thoes are pretty good for a factory stock rifle , i have not had the trigger adjusted on mine it's stock , My R5 has a Falcon 4.5 x18 x 56 on it with the Mp 20 recticule , egw rail and tps medium rings ,
I am shooting 175 Gr Matchkings with Rl15 powder , Remmington brass and Federal match primers. I bought some Varget so i am going to work up some loads with the Varget and see if it makes a difference
Glad to hear your is working out for you , I had mine out yesterday and shot it out at 300 Meters for the first time , I was shooting five three shot string's, groups ranged from .875 " to 1.00 " , I was also fighting a wind and cool temperatures , i feel that thoes are pretty good for a factory stock rifle , i have not had the trigger adjusted on mine it's stock , My R5 has a Falcon 4.5 x18 x 56 on it with the Mp 20 recticule , egw rail and tps medium rings ,
I am shooting 175 Gr Matchkings with Rl15 powder , Remmington brass and Federal match primers. I bought some Varget so i am going to work up some loads with the Varget and see if it makes a difference
Last edited:
Glad to hear your is working out for you , I had mine out yesterday and shot it out at 300 Meters for the first time , I was shooting five shot string's, groups ranged from .875 " to 1.00 " , I was also fighting a wind and cool temperatures , i feel that thoes are pretty good for a factory stock rifle , i have not had the trigger adjusted on mine it's stock , My R5 has a Falcon 2.5 x18 x 56 on it with the Mp 20 recticule , egw rail and tps medium rings ,
I am shooting 175 Gr Matchkings with Rl15 powder , Remmington brass and Federal match primers. I bought some Varget so i am going to work up some loads with the Varget and see if it makes a difference
WOW! Crap man if you are shooting .8s at 300 yards in winds and cold temperature I would not touch that load you have. I had one that would not do that honestly each time at 100m and thats being honest.
delta1
CGN frequent flyer
Is that .875 to 1 inch at 300 or is that minute of angle. if its at 300 then you shoot better than most especially in the wind and cold. On a good day I can shoot .2s and .3s at 100 most days i am pleased with.5s and i shoot around 5000 rounds per year to be able to stay there.
Regards
Regards
rnbra-shooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Brunswick
Hi Machinist, are you shooting 5-shot groups that are 0.875-1.00 _inches_, or 0.875-1.00 _MOA_, at 300 metres?
0.9-1.0 MOA 5-shot groups at 300 metres is _very_ good performance for a factory stock rifle. Most custom target rifles can do a little bit better than that - but, only a _little_ bit.
Consistent 1" 5-shot groups at 300 metres is on par with a multi-thousand dollar custom-built F-Class competition rifle, that is capable of winning a national competition.
0.9-1.0 MOA 5-shot groups at 300 metres is _very_ good performance for a factory stock rifle. Most custom target rifles can do a little bit better than that - but, only a _little_ bit.
Consistent 1" 5-shot groups at 300 metres is on par with a multi-thousand dollar custom-built F-Class competition rifle, that is capable of winning a national competition.
Center To Center
Thoes are the measurments Center to Center of the holes such as the way i would measure the centers of holes as if i drilled them in a plate,
I will post the pictures of the target when i get home tonight so you can see what i mean
Thoes are the measurments Center to Center of the holes such as the way i would measure the centers of holes as if i drilled them in a plate,
I will post the pictures of the target when i get home tonight so you can see what i mean
rnbra-shooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Brunswick
Good - that's the correct way to measure 'em.
I will post the pictures of the target when i get home tonight so you can see what i mean
Am always interested in looking at pretty groups, but no need to post the pictures, I'll take your word for it (then again, if you feel like showing off some great groups, go right ahead! ;-)
Targets !!
Here are a couple of targets , I corrected my earlier post , I meant 5 groups of 3 shot string's , as you can see thoes are pretty nice groups at 300 meters from a stock factory rifle .The first photo is 3 shots all touching i tryed to get in a fourth but it flew , the second is a 3 shot group. I have seen guy's shooting way more expensive rigs at the range than my lowly R5 and there groups arn't much better some even worst have a look at the photos if you don't like them flame away
Here are a couple of targets , I corrected my earlier post , I meant 5 groups of 3 shot string's , as you can see thoes are pretty nice groups at 300 meters from a stock factory rifle .The first photo is 3 shots all touching i tryed to get in a fourth but it flew , the second is a 3 shot group. I have seen guy's shooting way more expensive rigs at the range than my lowly R5 and there groups arn't much better some even worst
have a look at the photos if you don't like them flame away
Last edited:
rnbra-shooter
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Brunswick
Hi Machinist, those are beautiful tight little 300m groups, nevermind that they're only 3 shots each. The two that you have shown are _way_ smaller than an inch; the first one is well under 0.4", and the second one is under 0.5", if my eyeballing is any good. These would be very good groups if they were fired at 100m; that they have been fired at 300m really gets my attention(!!). By the way, did you call the fourth shot of the first group "bad" at the moment you fired it, or are you calling it a flyer because it is substantially farther from the first three shots?
Your rifle is telling you that it is _good_ (and BTW you obviously must be a fairly talented shooter too), and that it deserves a better exploration of what it is actually capable of. A few small 3-shot groups don't prove anything at all about a rifle's accuracy, since there is way too much room for random chance and shooter analysis/rationalization to distort things. But, there is now justification for digging deeper and testing it more comprehensively.
Let me to try to convince you that a factory rifle that puts all of its shots (let's define that as at least 10, preferably 15 or more) into less than a minute of angle (3.28" at 300m), is a good one and a "keeper". And, any rifle that actually manages a true half-MOA (1.65" at 300m) is performing like a properly-built $3000 target rifle.
I would argue that your shot#4 "flyer" perhaps isn't a flyer at all, but part of your group. Counting it as a good shot, you have a 1.1" 4-shot 300m group, which is just fine (in fact it's great).
It is now worth your while, if it is of any interest to you, to try shooting a few ten-shot groups, as carefeully as you can and using your very best technique, and see how the rifle and ammo are truly capable of performing for you (not, "how tightly can it shoot a few shots, some/most of the time", but "how tightly can I count on _all_ of the shots landing?")
Your rifle is telling you that it is _good_ (and BTW you obviously must be a fairly talented shooter too), and that it deserves a better exploration of what it is actually capable of. A few small 3-shot groups don't prove anything at all about a rifle's accuracy, since there is way too much room for random chance and shooter analysis/rationalization to distort things. But, there is now justification for digging deeper and testing it more comprehensively.
Let me to try to convince you that a factory rifle that puts all of its shots (let's define that as at least 10, preferably 15 or more) into less than a minute of angle (3.28" at 300m), is a good one and a "keeper". And, any rifle that actually manages a true half-MOA (1.65" at 300m) is performing like a properly-built $3000 target rifle.
I would argue that your shot#4 "flyer" perhaps isn't a flyer at all, but part of your group. Counting it as a good shot, you have a 1.1" 4-shot 300m group, which is just fine (in fact it's great).
It is now worth your while, if it is of any interest to you, to try shooting a few ten-shot groups, as carefeully as you can and using your very best technique, and see how the rifle and ammo are truly capable of performing for you (not, "how tightly can it shoot a few shots, some/most of the time", but "how tightly can I count on _all_ of the shots landing?")
