Displaying a Flintlock Rifle at Home

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From the BC hunting regs: "A muzzle loader containing powder and shot in the barrel but
unprimed (ie, no powder in the pan of a flint lock or no cap in the
nipple of a percussion lock) is not considered a loaded firearm under
the Criminal Code (Canada).
 
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Thanks for your kind words......:rolleyes: but if you noticed in a previous post on this thread, I already had said "That answers my question..... Thanks all". But I knew the thread would alter course slightly as discussions usually do, when more questions and points are added.

BTW it was hanging on the wall long before I had started the thread. :D


bdft said:
For f**k's sake. Hang the flintlock on the wall already.
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tiriaq said:
That is while being transported from hunting site to hunting site. Not when it is being stored.
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"A muzzle loader containing powder and shot in the barrel but
unprimed (ie, no powder in the pan of a flint lock or no cap in the
nipple of a percussion lock) is not considered a loaded firearm under
the Criminal Code (Canada).


AFAIK - The Criminal Code of Canada applies sa long as you are standing on Canadian soil. That means at a hunt camp, in the truck between hunting sights and in your home. I know some hunting regs printed it up like triaiq has stated, but C.C. trumps hunting regs.
 
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Read the actual federal law, rather than referring to hunting regulations.

10 (1) An individual may transport a non-restricted firearm only if
a) except in the case of a muzzle-loading firearm that is being
transported between hunting sites, it is unloaded, and;
b) in the case of a muzzle-loading firearm that is being
transported between hunting sites, its firing cap or flint is
removed.

14 (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if
if it is unloaded.

If you cannot be bothered reading the actual law, don't be giving incorrect, misleading advice.
 
tiriaq said:
Read the actual federal law, rather than referring to hunting regulations.

10 (1) An individual may transport a non-restricted firearm only if
a) except in the case of a muzzle-loading firearm that is being
transported between hunting sites, it is unloaded, and;
b) in the case of a muzzle-loading firearm that is being
transported between hunting sites, its firing cap or flint is
removed.

14 (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if
if it is unloaded.

If you cannot be bothered reading the actual law, don't be giving incorrect, misleading advice.
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I have been unable to find this section in the Criminal Code, can you direct me?
I'm rather surprised, as the B.C. hunting regs has had the above quote in it for about a decade. It has become a common knowledge in B.C. - even my PAL course instructor quoted it that way.
If this is not the law, the hunting regs should be updated.
And my apologies to tiriaq and I will edit my strongly worded posting.
 
Here a guy asked a Simple Question to start out this Thread...
and i find out i been locking up my Antique handguns for years when i didnt have to :redface:




Whats the LEGAL deal on Ammo Guys if im home can i have it out on counters or Bed side Table and not just when your Reloading Ect
Does it only need to be locked when im out or the house is empty.
 
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Smokepole said:
I have been unable to find this section in the Criminal Code, can you direct me?
I'm rather surprised, as the B.C. hunting regs has had the above quote in it for about a decade. It has become a common knowledge in B.C. - even my PAL course instructor quoted it that way.
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I haven't had time to check out what the sections say but specifically antiques are not firearms for the purposes of
cc91 - cc95
cc99 - cc101
cc103 - cc107
cc117

they are firearms for the purposes of cc86(2)
One question in my mind is where the requirements for safe storage occur; I am guessing it is in the firearms act rather than under the criminal code. It is my impression that the CFC have said in the not too distant past that antique must be stored in a manner similar to firearms even though they are not firearms for the purposes of registration and licensing.
Much like Tiriaq has said, around the time that muzzle loaders were first addressed in the BC hunting regs, it is my memory that the regs said essentially that you could transport them with a charge in the barrel but no cap or flint or equivalent, between hunting sites but once you entered paved roads, the guns were expected to have empty barrels. It is important to remember that the published regs are a guide and not the written word and in some cases there are significant differences. For example shotgun only areas at least in some cases are actually single projectile prohibited ---- not the same thing. Similarly the current statement in the regs about transport, may be an abbreviated form of the legal word and not the complete statement.

cheers mooncoon
 
tiriaq said:
Read the actual federal law, rather than referring to hunting regulations.

10 (1) An individual may transport a non-restricted firearm only if
a) except in the case of a muzzle-loading firearm that is being
transported between hunting sites, it is unloaded, and;
b) in the case of a muzzle-loading firearm that is being
transported between hunting sites, its firing cap or flint is
removed.

14 (1) An individual may store, display or transport an antique firearm only if
if it is unloaded.

If you cannot be bothered reading the actual law, don't be giving incorrect, misleading advice.
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This quote ^^ is from the section of the firearms act refering to transport of muzzleloaders. Not the criminal code of Canada.

I would still like to find a link to the CC of Canada section refering to whether a muzzleloader is considered loaded without a primer. The B.C. Hunting regs quotes the CC of Canada and claims simply that the gun is not considered loaded if not primed. So where does the CC of Canada refer to this?
 
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I think we are over thinking this.
Is a Ruger .44, loaded , if an unprimed but otherwise complete cartidge is in the chamber ? As is , it can't be fired.
But then , I'm not a liberal appointed judge.......:rolleyes:
what was this thread about ? oh yeah , displaying a flintlock rifle.........
 
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Smokepole said:
This quote ^^ is from the section of the firearms act refering to transport of muzzleloaders. Not the criminal code of Canada.

I would still like to find a link to the CC of Canada section refering to whether a muzzleloader is considered loaded without a primer. The B.C. Hunting regs quotes the CC of Canada and claims simply that the gun is not considered loaded if not primed. So where does the CC of Canada refer to this?
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Here is what I found in the Criminal code, it just refers back to the Firearms Act.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/C-46/bo-ga:l_III//en#anchorbo-ga:l_III

Contravention of storage regulations, etc.

(2) Every person commits an offence who contravenes a regulation made under paragraph 117(h) of the Firearms Act respecting the storage, handling, transportation, shipping, display, advertising and mail-order sales of firearms and restricted weapons.
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I wanted a wallhanger for my cottage so I started looking for a replica antique firearm to hang. Given the price of them and the fact that I disdain firearms that don't shoot I purchased a traditions flintlock which will likely make it out into the field on occasion for a deer hunt.
 
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