.257 Roberts for Moose.

I'm finding the answers to this post far more irritating than the question.
Did the poster ask if a .257 Roberts will kill a moose? No. He knows.
Did he ask if it was a good choice for moose? No. He knows.
Did he ask for moose rifle cartridge suggestions? No.
He just asked if anyone uses a Roberts as their moose rifle.
So it's not so much us being drawn into a debate as inventing one. Again.
 
Kilo Charlie said:
I'm finding the answers to this post far more irritating than the question.
Did the poster ask if a .257 Roberts will kill a moose? No. He knows.
Did he ask if it was a good choice for moose? No. He knows.
Did he ask for moose rifle cartridge suggestions? No.
He just asked if anyone uses a Roberts as their moose rifle.
So it's not so much us being drawn into a debate as inventing one. Again.
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Sorry.

Have I killed moose with a Roberts? No. Hunted? Yes.
Killed Elk? Yes.
Killed Bears? Yes.

Did I see any difference vs my 7mm's? No.

Would I, and do I, leave my 7mm's and 35 Norma home at times to hunt moose with my Roberts? Yes. In fact, I suspect I would have a tough time finding a moose large enough to stop a 100TSX.

K?
 
You put a 25 caliber hole in your heart or a 338 caliber hole in your heart you are still going to die either way. And with both size bullet holes the moose will die a whole lot quicker than having a pack of wolves chewing on their back quarters waiting for death.

Where moose live it is not like Disney World movies, they very seldom die of old age and tip over in their sleep. Starvation and predators do them in never pretty deaths and usually end up in raven and wolf crap.

I am an animal I bleed red same as my quarry. I try to be an ethical hunter but to me 6.5 or bigger good bullet shot straight should do the job.

After you pull the trigger the first time give the animal a chance to die. Have a cup of coffee or 2. Give the big moose 15, 30 minutes or even an hour. than go to where your moose is and enjoy more work than a man cares to do.

jmo
 
More highjacking here. Several posters have stated that a moose rifle starts with a 6.5mm. Have they had actual experiences where a 264 cal bullet accomplished something a 257 cal bullet would not?

We can debate sectional density of the heavy weight 6.5's but with modern monolithics I believe sectional density is an obsolete number, extremes notwithstanding. ??
 
Kilo Charlie said:
I'm finding the answers to this post far more irritating than the question.
Did the poster ask if a .257 Roberts will kill a moose? No. He knows.
Did he ask if it was a good choice for moose? No. He knows.
Did he ask for moose rifle cartridge suggestions? No.
He just asked if anyone uses a Roberts as their moose rifle.
So it's not so much us being drawn into a debate as inventing one. Again.
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Exactly my thoughts!!!
 
Kilo Charlie said:
I'm finding the answers to this post far more irritating than the question.
Did the poster ask if a .257 Roberts will kill a moose? No. He knows.
Did he ask if it was a good choice for moose? No. He knows.
Did he ask for moose rifle cartridge suggestions? No.
He just asked if anyone uses a Roberts as their moose rifle.
So it's not so much us being drawn into a debate as inventing one. Again.
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All true, but slightly off-topic is the way most conversations go. I thought it was more of a friendly discussion than a debate.


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I bought a 257 wby this year, I have not shot game with smaller calibers however it will work I am sure. I think the onlything you really need to address before the trigger lets loose is where to put that bullet. I too have no fear that a 100 grain TSX bullet will get to where its suposed to, I just think you need to collect your thoughts, and make a better shot, than you would with a larger caliber, specialy on moose.


The funny thing is on all these IS IT ENOUGH threads, why the heck do we always look at minimums, I have no clue, we most all own multiple hunting rigs in different calibers.

Its liek shooting a deer with a 17 rem, sure you can, sure it will kill it, if you hit it in the right spot. Anything will kill any animal if you shoot it thorugh the eye into the the brain. Hell before guns we used sticks and spears, and it worked crule but it worked, Just my 2 cents.
 
Timberwolfe said:
You put a 25 caliber hole in your heart or a 338 caliber hole in your heart you are still going to die either way. And with both size bullet holes the moose will die a whole lot quicker than having a pack of wolves chewing on their back quarters waiting for death.

Where moose live it is not like Disney World movies, they very seldom die of old age and tip over in their sleep. Starvation and predators do them in never pretty deaths and usually end up in raven and wolf crap.

I am an animal I bleed red same as my quarry. I try to be an ethical hunter but to me 6.5 or bigger good bullet shot straight should do the job.

After you pull the trigger the first time give the animal a chance to die. Have a cup of coffee or 2. Give the big moose 15, 30 minutes or even an hour. than go to where your moose is and enjoy more work than a man cares to do.

jmo
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Sorry to change the topic, but Timberwolfe, you have a very good knowledge of real wolves in the wild.
I have happended to have chased away a pack of wolves that had just killed a moose, and only part of the hind end was eaten, or damaged.
 
I don't question that you can kill a moose with a 257 BOB, but it would be about my 20th choice if I was setting up Moose only rig, like the original poster asked.

Most of us on here have the ability to hit what we aim at with 7mm or 30 cal magnum cartridges(or larger). I have trouble with recoil from a 338 mag, so for me the limit that I can handle is a 300 magnum of some variety. Most of us handload which makes those calibres even more versatile. I haven't killed enough 1,000 lb animals to state definitively a minimum, this year I hunted with a 7mm round, previous years a 30 cal magnum.

I am primarily a deer hunter who also buys moose and elk tags, so I like the combination of a really flat shooting round with a medium weight monolithic bullet and to me those are ideal, close or long shots, doesn't matter(assuming I can hit what I am aiming at), and I get a good combination of expansion and penetration.

When I was in Africa I found my 300 win mag killed faster than my son's 30-06 with the same bullet, I believe velocity to a point is our friend.

So believing all that, I would never buy a BOB to set up as a dedicated moose rifle.
 
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I have a buddy of mine who uses a 257 roberts for everything. In fact I'm looking for a winchester model 70 in a 257 roberts now. I have watched him drop moose and elk in their tracks with it. I was exactly like the rest of you fellows. I thought he was on crack, but he has hunted with if for the last 30 years and if I shoot half as many trophy critters as he has with the 257 then I will be happy.

I know it is hard to believe and I didn't until I saw it for myself. Sorry I can't remember what lead or powder he reloads with but if anyone has one they want to let go I'm interested

down with the three headed monster
 
RT said:
Does anyone Hunt Moose with .257 Roberts? I mean actually have a dedicated .257 Roberts for Moose. It seems a bit light for Moose, but I do no of a couple guys that Moose hunt with other .25 cals.
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Nice try guys but the original poster says "It seems a bit light for Moose"
So therefor all replys on whether the .257 is enough gun is fair game & not off topic ;):dancingbanana:
 
I'm a traditionalist when it comes to moose hunting. Anything .30 caliber on the heavier side (180 grains preferred) and you can go and kill bullwinkle from almost any angle at reasonable distances (200-300 yards). Recoil is moderate and tolerable to most in .303, .308, .30-06.

Not every animal stands broadside for the perfect lung shot. Often times they stand frontal to you at a slight angle such as when they come in on a call. Will the Roberts have enough juice to go through a front ham and find the boiler room? I don't know. Maybe. I'd rather have a heavier slug with enough momentum to cause some real internal damage making it there.

Broadside heart & lung shots is no worry for most calibers out there, but as mentionned earlier, animals aren't always at perfect angles for a shot. Considering that most hunters only actually get a chance at a moose over seasons of hunting, many will not pass up less than ideal shots. Therefore, get a bigger caliber which you can handle well and stop wondering if you have enough gun for the job.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, "uber magnums" are not for everyone. Generally, the average hunter can be intimidated by the recoil and muzzle blast and WILL flinch more than a standard caliber and WILL find it less pleasant to shoot.

All these "is a .243 a good moose caliber" and " a .375 H&H is the perfect all round caliber from goundhogs to elephants" discussions are FUN to spend hours reading and then "bull sh*tting" amongst fellow hunters. Answers are mostly the same in every instance, a wide swath of cow patties stretching both opposite ends of the spectrum that can be most entertaining! ;)

Aren't these forums fun? :dancingbanana::D
 
I know a lady who shoots hers with a 243 Win and plain old 100 gr factory stuff.
30/30 Win has accounted for a ton of moose too. Just pick your shot and don't take bad shots . Piles are shot every year with bow and arrows!
 
Would a 7mm rem mag or a 7mm wby mag be considered too light with 160 grain accubonds?
Woodsman said:
I'm a traditionalist when it comes to moose hunting. Anything .30 caliber on the heavier side (180 grains preferred) and you can go and kill bullwinkle from almost any angle at reasonable distances (200-300 yards). Recoil is moderate and tolerable to most in .303, .308, .30-06.

Not every animal stands broadside for the perfect lung shot. Often times they stand frontal to you at a slight angle such as when they come in on a call. Will the Roberts have enough juice to go through a front ham and find the boiler room? I don't know. Maybe. I'd rather have a heavier slug with enough momentum to cause some real internal damage making it there.

Broadside heart & lung shots is no worry for most calibers out there, but as mentionned earlier, animals aren't always at perfect angles for a shot. Considering that most hunters only actually get a chance at a moose over seasons of hunting, many will not pass up less than ideal shots. Therefore, get a bigger caliber which you can handle well and stop wondering if you have enough gun for the job.

At the opposite end of the spectrum, "uber magnums" are not for everyone. Generally, the average hunter can be intimidated by the recoil and muzzle blast and WILL flinch more than a standard caliber and WILL find it less pleasant to shoot.

All these "is a .243 a good moose caliber" and " a .375 H&H is the perfect all round caliber from goundhogs to elephants" discussions are FUN to spend hours reading and then "bull sh*tting" amongst fellow hunters. Answers are mostly the same in every instance, a wide swath of cow patties stretching both opposite ends of the spectrum that can be most entertaining! ;)

Aren't these forums fun? :dancingbanana::D
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I just have to wonder why someone wants to shoot a moose "from almost any angle"?

Unless you're bailing out of a pickup to whang away at a moose stepping off a forest road into the bush, they're typically standing there looking at you. It's just not that hard to pick a spot with good shot placement. After all, why ruin the meat? Moose is good groceries!
 
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