Hey Glock Gurus, Info Needed

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Never been a big Glock fan, but recently was thinking of adding one to the collection. I was shooting for a .40 but recently had a 17 (9mm) come on my radar at what I think is a decent price.

As I am ignorant to Glocks I am asking for some info.

1. How does one determine which generation it is?
2. Any pros vs cons of each generation?
3. Differences between generations?
4. Which to avoid?
5. Approx value with +/- 2000 rounds through it and two mags?

Anything you fellas can throw my way, please post!
 
1) The grip will tell you what gen it is, do a google search to "see" the differences.

5)Glocks run forever, 10,000 rounds might de-value it a "tad" If no new parts are in it. 2,000... it's a baby still
 
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The latest generation (3rd) has a ambidextrious thumb notch on the grip with a rail for lights and lasers. They're very simple to modify with after market accessories and there's an abundance of them.
Personally, i like the full size models because of my hand size.
I've sold all my non glock autos, except for one HK. Now i only collect Glocks, except for my revolvers and others.(such lies)
 
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The 17 i shot fit my hands great, and put the holes in the paper where i wanted it. I think said glock was a 2nd gen, (been a few months since i shot it...6...8ish)
I also shot his 26, i actually shot better with this than the 17, it was a tad awkward feeling in my hands, as the mag/pistol ends inside your palm. It was a nice shot though... If CCW was good to go in canada, i'd have this in my locker.

I bought the G19, 3rd gen. Plan on adding a G17 for the wife soon.
 
I too, can say that after getting my G17, I lost all interest in my other autos. G19 & 26 followed shortly after.

There really is just something about them; they fit, they shoot well, they're so simple, and they're easy to strip and clean. If you shoot something well, and it's easy to clean after a range visit, you'll notice it gets taken with almost each trip.

Stick to a 3rd gen if you can. And don't worry too much about round count. I've got well over 5,000 rounds through my G17, and aside from a very small scuff on the barrel, you'd never know it's even been used...

The full sizes are a tad big IMO, the compacts are great, and the sub-compacts are cool, but they barrel sticking out so far takes away from the look.
 
If the Glock grip fits your hand there really isn't a more reliable or durable duty pistol for the money.
 
+1 to all of that.

Funny thing. Someone will post about the weird Glock "grip angle". Well, I lay my Glock on top of my Sig. The grip angle is almost identical. Are we talking about three degrees or less?

Whatever is actually going on, I can tell you that with the Glock grip, the grip angle (?) the low bore axis, and the absorbant build, recoil no longer irritates my arthritic wrist. Any significant difference might be the distance from the trigger surface to the backstrap.

So, now I have a G17, a G22, and a 1911 for another kind of fun. Don't need anything else, thanks.
 
Here is some good fair "opinion" that explains the reasons for using a Glock over an M&P for example from Larry Vickers"

Use this to decide on your priorities then find a gun that meets them.

Another wise thing I heard recently to pass on to others is "spend less on the shiny gun and gadgets and spend more on training and ammo..."
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"1) IMO the Glock 19 and 17 are the best Glock's made - both are excellent pistols - I own, use, and recommend both

2) I do not recommend the G22, G23, or G21 - based on my experience these pistols have problems (breakage, won't function with rail mounted lights, etc.) and I feel there are better choices in 40 and 45

3) Glocks as a rule are not as accurate as many other service pistols - partly due to the enlarged chamber - this can be fixed with aftermarket barrels

4) I recommend 3 things for a Glock 19 or 17; good sights (Heinie, Novak, 10-8and Warren are my current favorites) , a buttplug to keep debris out of the trigger mech (cheap insurance), and my mag catch made by Tangodown. Optional but highly recommended is frame texturing by Dave Bowie (I like the finger grooves removed also)

5) They are incredibly forgiving in maintenance and lubrication - amazing

6) Incredibly simple to operate - 2 levers/buttons and 1 is optional

7) Always remember the golden rule with a Glock; keep your finger OFF the trigger until you are ready to shoot - if you don't adhere to this expect a loud noise at some point

Bottom line Glocks in 9mm are excellent pistols - they are not my first choice in other calibers however - the S&W M&P has been called a product improved Glock ; this may be true but the verdict is still out as the M&P is a relatively new handgun vs millions of Glock's in service (mostly in 9mm I might add) and S&W has a spotty record in terms of autoloading pistols - time will tell

hope this helps

Larry Vickers"
 
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Here is some good fair "opinion" that explains the reasons for using a Glock over an M&P for example from Larry Vickers"

Use this to decide on your priorities then find a gun that meets them.

Another wise thing I heard recently to pass on to others is "spend less on the shiny gun and gadgets and spend more on training and ammo..."
Quote:
"1) IMO the Glock 19 and 17 are the best Glock's made - both are excellent pistols - I own, use, and recommend both

2) I do not recommend the G22, G23, or G21 - based on my experience these pistols have problems (breakage, won't function with rail mounted lights, etc.) and I feel there are better choices in 40 and 45

3) Glocks as a rule are not as accurate as many other service pistols - partly due to the enlarged chamber - this can be fixed with aftermarket barrels

4) I recommend 3 things for a Glock 19 or 17; good sights (Heinie, Novak, 10-8and Warren are my current favorites) , a buttplug to keep debris out of the trigger mech (cheap insurance), and my mag catch made by Tangodown. Optional but highly recommended is frame texturing by Dave Bowie (I like the finger grooves removed also)

5) They are incredibly forgiving in maintenance and lubrication - amazing

6) Incredibly simple to operate - 2 levers/buttons and 1 is optional

7) Always remember the golden rule with a Glock; keep your finger OFF the trigger until you are ready to shoot - if you don't adhere to this expect a loud noise at some point

Bottom line Glocks in 9mm are excellent pistols - they are not my first choice in other calibers however - the S&W M&P has been called a product improved Glock ; this may be true but the verdict is still out as the M&P is a relatively new handgun vs millions of Glock's in service (mostly in 9mm I might add) and S&W has a spotty record in terms of autoloading pistols - time will tell

hope this helps

Larry Vickers"
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Oh man...my first glock was a G21 and its the best i have. The M&P is o k except for the sear arm being have to be flipped up to disassemble. The removable backstraps are a better design if you have mutant hands....and guess what, i sold the M&P cause i didn't like it as much...but its still a good pistol...and i don't care for my g17 much. It all depends if i'm menstruating or not. These are hard questions to answer if you have a HKP7, which makes all other striker fired models.... suck.
 
So, to help the OP, why don't you explain the reasons for "sucks" etc...? Vickers has got a couple million rounds down range, so I thought his input and data points would help...
 
For all the times I ever read people slagging Glock they rarely mention the 20. I like that, oh and the Glock 17\19 is the best "military and Police" pistol out there IMO. I own a 20 and am looking at buying a 19 very soon. After that I'll be buying rifles and revolvers. No need for any other semi's if you get the hang of Glock's trigger.
 
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....After that I'll be buying rifles and revolvers. No need for any other semi's if you get the hang of Glock's trigger.
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Exactly, once you own Glocks, all you need is rifles, shotties and revolvers. Toss a good 1911 in the mix and you're good to go.
 
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