Laurentian Wildlife - canned hunts...

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Anyone ever been there, or know someone who has?

I have no interest in a "canned" hunt, just curious how large their property is.

I emailed them some questions on the size of the parcel and how high their fences were, but they just beat around the bush on it...

I think she quoted a non trophy basic Elk "hunt" was $7500 or so...They also have red stag...

http://www.laurentianwildlife.com/
 
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"The Laurentian Wildlife Estate program of genetic, selective breeding and culling, has been underway for a number of years."

It sounds like they should change their name to Laurentian Livestock.

There was one outfit in the U.S. that even let you select the animal you wanted to 'hunt', charged you according to the rack size, and then put it into a well fenced few acres of bush where you could pretend to hunt it. If you were handicapped (or incredibly lazy) they'd even give it a hit of tranquilizer for you.

I suspect these guys are along the same lines. But they probably show a profit, and in the long run I guess that's what it's all about. God knows, farmed elk aren't exactly making anybody rich these days.
 
Tumbleweed said:
There was one outfit in the U.S. that even let you select the animal you wanted to 'hunt', charged you according to the rack size, and then put it into a well fenced few acres of bush where you could pretend to hunt it.
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There's a place like that in Ormstown, QC. It's 41 acres. The animals are in a barn - you pay by weight.

Sorry blargon - don't know how big their place is. Can be pretty snooty around there, though.
 
Want to see canned hunts?

Just watch Wild TV, it seems like 95% of these African bow/muzzleloader hunts and other exotics are canned hunts.
I found that when they mention who they're outfitting with if the name ends with "ranch" instead of "outfitters", it's a canned hunt

Here's a blurb I copied from a link from the Hunting 201 show.


Our methods of hunting at McAllen Ranch vary depending on location and weather. Most hunting is conducted from a ground blind, and there are occasions when a top drive vehicle is used. A guide is always assigned to a hunter, and hunting areas are guaranteed to be isolated from others in your group. Most pastures hunted exceed 2,000 acres to provide ample space for your hunting safety and the safety of others around you. Hunting large pastures separate from one another also keeps the native wildlife docile and well controlled.



Of course there are no prices, I guess if you have to ask you can't afford it.
 
Just watch Wild TV, it seems like 95% of these African bow/muzzleloader hunts and other exotics are canned hunts.
I found that when they mention who they're outfitting with if the name ends with "ranch" instead of "outfitters", it's a canned hunt
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Ya, sadly you are right. It certainly does keep production costs down when you are guaranteed kills in a short amount of time and it definitely makes for more steady footage when you are set up in a ground blind with the tripod and the native wildlife is docile and controlled! :rolleyes:

Thankfully some shows buck the trend and show how it really happens outside of fences.
 
blargon said:
Anyone ever been there, or know someone who has?

I have no interest in a "canned" hunt, just curious how large their property is.

I emailed them some questions on the size of the parcel and how high their fences were, but they just beat around the bush on it...

I think she quoted a non trophy basic Elk "hunt" was $7500 or so...They also have red stag...

http://www.laurentianwildlife.com/
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Saw that 570 elk of theirs a few years ago at SCI show in Reno. They do raise some big critters. Definitely not for me but I guess it does appeal to some.....far be it for me to criticize....
 
Pickles said:
Just watch Wild TV, it seems like 95% of these African bow/muzzleloader hunts and other exotics are canned hunts.
I found that when they mention who they're outfitting with if the name ends with "ranch" instead of "outfitters", it's a canned hunt

and well controlled.[/B]



Of course there are no prices, I guess if you have to ask you can't afford it.
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AAAWW ignorance should be a punishable offense. I cant comment on this "wild TV"as my wild is actually in the wild, but I'll say this. The word Ranch in africa doesnt mean what it means here. I'll give you a TV analogy to help you draw a more accurate conclusion. Quigley was on marstons "ranch". Howdya think he woulda fared out without being saved by the aboriginallys? Boys these frikin "ranches"start at 10,000 HEACTARES. Do the math and tell me it necessarily means up close and canned. It may, but it aint gauranteed. They is pretty frikin big
 
When it comes to the small farms- the ones where your animal in the bag is essentially guaranteed- it ain't for me. But on reflecting on it I suppose it's not much different then going to a cattle ranch and picking the steaks you want while they're still on the hoof, except the hunter is doing the dirty job. It strikes me as being a paid for kill rather than a paid for hunt, however. I just don't see it as being hunting by any definition. Personally I need to know there's a good chance of getting skunked. But meat or no meat at the end of the day, it's still been a good day.

Now, those Aussie ranches....I've seen them, been on a couple. Yup, that'd be hunting.
 
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Boys these frikin "ranches"start at 10,000 HEACTARES. Do the math and tell me it necessarily means up close and canned. It may, but it aint gauranteed. They is pretty frikin big
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Yeah, a lot of the ranches in the western US are 20,000 - 50,000 acres. Fenced or not, it'd take me 2-3 weeks or more to cover all that...:D

This Laurentian, I'm thinking, isn't much more than 1000 acres
 
asusual said:
AAAWW ignorance should be a punishable offense. I cant comment on this "wild TV"as my wild is actually in the wild, but I'll say this. The word Ranch in africa doesnt mean what it means here. I'll give you a TV analogy to help you draw a more accurate conclusion. Quigley was on marstons "ranch". Howdya think he woulda fared out without being saved by the aboriginallys? Boys these frikin "ranches"start at 10,000 HEACTARES. Do the math and tell me it necessarily means up close and canned. It may, but it aint gauranteed. They is pretty frikin big
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That always brings up an interesting question though......at what point is a "ranch" big enough not to be considered a fenced hunt? There's some pretty big ranches that guarantee success. Not trying to make a point either way here but is there a magic number of acres or a magic formula that takes into account cover and acres? I've killed critters inside fences before....some small and canned and some big and more fairchase than some fairchase hunts I've been on but regardless, they've all never seemed like real hunts to me. Others may think differently and I respect that and I'd never look down on their accomplishments because I wasn't there but how do others feel about this.

I know we are booked to go to Africa in April and for us, it was critical that we not hunt inside game-proof fences no matter how large the ranch. We are paying considerably more for that luxury!
 
stubblejumper said:
When you choose a particular animal in advance,and are guaranteed to kill that animal in a single day or two,I don't consider it a hunt.
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A friend of mine went on a "wild boar"...uhmm hunt, ya hunt...huh. 5 shooters in a 10 acre fenced pen...1 piggy. :eek: Very challenging. Not so good PR for hunters in general. :(
Thats like me whacking a steer in the pasture, and calling it hunting...its called slaughtering plain and simple.

Those multi-thousand acre ranches are a different story all together.:cool:
 
sheephunter said:
Even if there is no fence?
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When you are guaranteed a particular animal that you picked out of a catalogue,or online before arriving,there is usually a fence,and the area that it encloses usually isn't too large.I know of a couple of these operations in Saskatchewan.In one case,the shooter waits comfortably in a shed/blind and the animal is driven to the shed/blind so that he can shoot it.
 
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stubblejumper said:
When you are guaranteed a particular animal that you picked out of a catalogue,or online before arriving,there is usually a fence,and the area that it encloses usually isn't too large.I know of a couple of these operations in Saskatchewan.In one case,the shooter waits comfortably in a shed/blind and the animal is driven to the shed/blind so that he can shoot it.
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Ther are some outfitters, that in a free-range situation will scout an animal for you and guarantee a kill........just adds another dimension to this discussion.
 
To each there own,we all scout animals to shoot,no guaranties we will get that animal but most times you can if you put in the effort.
There are ducks on a certain creek I hunt they will get shot sooner or later.
There are no fences but they cant all get away.
I could guarantee any one who is a decent shot a Duck.
If you want to shoot animals in a fenced yard go ahead,we put food plots out for Deer,Donuts for Bear the choice should be personal,not what some one else thinks you should do.
 
Ther are some outfitters, that in a free-range situation will scout an animal for you and guarantee a kill....
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And one particular outfitter that runs such a hunt for deer near the Alberta/ Saskatchewan border,has been convicted of game offenses,and criminal offenses on more than one occasion.
 
stubblejumper said:
And one particular outfitter that runs such a hunt for deer near the Alberta/ Saskatchewan border,has been convicted of game offenses,and criminal offenses on more than one occasion.
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And there are some in the U.S. do it perfectly legally......just a simple question....this topic has always facinated me. What if everything was above board but you were guaranteed a prescouted animal?
 
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