Australian International Arms 7.62x51

[chanman]

No.

As in no that is not correct...

They fit the M14's as well...

Probably explains in part the shortage of stand alone mags from Marstar, then.

 

[303carbine]

No, not at all. Illegal. AIA mags only.

There is no magazine capacity restriction for bolt action rifles.

 

[303carbine]

The No 4 Mk 4 is parkerized, and the mags are grey parkerized. The B has blued mags. I believe the mags are identical otherwise.

My B1 is blued with (2) parked mags........

 

[Vimy Ridge]

There is no magazine capacity restriction for bolt action rifles.

No, he was referring to someone unpinning a M14 mag to use in an AIA. In that particular case there would be a restriction. It's what the mags are designed for use in, not what they can be used in. Go ahead and use M14 mags in the AIA if it works but:

DO NOT UNPIN M14 MAGS FOR USE IN AIA RIFLES!!!

 

[cantom]

There is no magazine capacity restriction for bolt action rifles.

There certainly is for M14's, and unpinning an M14 mag is illegal.

 

[303carbine]

There certainly is for M14's, and unpinning an M14 mag is illegal.

An M14 is a semi auto,correct. Yes, they do have a mag capacity restriction of 5.

 

[B]

So, once again, is the AIA .308 limited to 5 rounds? Or does it have mags which will not work in any other weapon available? Not having legal large capacity mags kills any appeal of the rifle for me.

 

[chanman]

So, once again, is the AIA .308 limited to 5 rounds? Or does it have mags which will not work in any other weapon available? Not having legal large capacity mags kills any appeal of the rifle for me.

The mag restriction is dependent on what gun the magazine was designed for. Hence the AIA mags are designed for a bolt action rifle, and hold 10 rounds. The M14 mags are designed for a semi auto, so they hold 5 rounds or are pinned to 5 rounds.

The fact that the AIA mags fit into the M14 and the M14 mags may fit into the AIA rifle does not change the rules regarding their capacity. This is the same as using Questar's pistol marked 9mm and .223 AR-15 pistol mags in AR-15 rifles or using Beretta PX4 mags in a CX4 Storm.

Using your CX4 mags in the pistol doesn't mean you can legally re-pin them to 10 rounds, as the legal capacity for the magazine is determined by the platform it was originally manufactured/designed for, and not what it is being used in - hence why Questar had to go to the trouble of having new pistol mags designed rather than just asking their suppliers to stamp '.223 Pistol' on the side of USGI mags and pin them to 10 rounds instead of 5.

Clear as mud?



Edit: I think some posters have mentioned that the AIA mags fit into their M14s and cycle fine, but no one's bothered posting about actually using it, although I dimly recall someone mentioning that M14s with 10 rounders were the only non-AR mag using guns keeping up with the .223 rifles using Questar's pistol mags at a shoot, so take from that what you will.

 

[B]

Thanks for the explanation but I know all that. It's why I asked if there were proprietary mags available. I recall a ruling against Questar regarding 7615p 30 round mags not being legal. How is this different? Exact situation, only with M14 magazines in place of AR-15 mags.

 

[cantom]

So, once again, is the AIA .308 limited to 5 rounds? Or does it have mags which will not work in any other weapon available? Not having legal large capacity mags kills any appeal of the rifle for me.

The AIA magazine is 10 round capacity as befits a bolt action rifle based on the Lee Enfield design.
Nuff said...please.

 

[cantom]

Thanks for the explanation but I know all that. It's why I asked if there were proprietary mags available. I recall a ruling against Questar regarding 7615p 30 round mags not being legal. How is this different? Exact situation, only with M14 magazines in place of AR-15 mags.

No, there are no other mags available.

 

[Splatter]

I recall a ruling against Questar regarding 7615p 30 round mags not being legal.

IIRC the main difference here was that the nice folks at Remington explained in all their sales literature that the rife was _designed_ to use AR15 mags. If they had advertised it as having special mags designed just for it; but that it was also possible to use AR mags, everything would have been fine, we could have had and used those 20-30-40+ round mags in anything that fit.

 

[B]

Awesome, clear as mud but I understand. Maybe someday I'll pick one up, too many guns and not enough money.

 

[303carbine]

here is the Australian International Arms 7.62x51 that 303carbine recently puchased ,only around $900 or so to shoot well under an inch !!!......

I like the way the M10 B2 match rifle has a bi-pod stud,so I purchased a sling stud from a local shop and installed it easily myself. Hopefully this spring this rig will be out thinning out the wolf population.