Summerland Long Range Fun Shoot 2008 - April 12, 13th

Hopefully there's enough interest and volunteers to put it on again because it sure sounded like fun. Middle of April is a great time for me because I'm not very busy at that time and I can still do some skiing at Sunshine on the way down to BC! If something gets organized this year I am willing to come a day or two before and help with any set-up.
 
There will be enough interest. Its a good time and everyone helps out. I am in for this year as well, just need the dates so I can book it off.
 
I'm in again this year, and will take time off to get there early for any set-up or work that's needed.
This is pretty much the beginning of my shooting year, and not to be missed!
 
Appreciate the interest but nothing concrete yet. And nothing to be decided until Feb.

Got to see how work and family affect the event. Also, waiting for the competition dates to see if there are any conflicts.

The goal would be mid April again but let's see what the winter brings.

Hopefully, we will see you all this spring.

Jerry

PS as a hint - there will be nominal entrace fee this year per shooter. Part will cover expenses I incur and part will go to support CGN and other valued associations.

Event will be limited to 36 shooters. All will be asked to help with road duties and a few to help with range duties. See first posts for the usual rules and equipment needed.

Day one will be on the flat with ranges starting at 550yds going out to 1 mile up the hill.

Day two will be extreme range where you will start at around 1200yds and go out to 2600+ yds.

If I can get some help with welding and steel, we can make up some gongs. Looking at some gopher swingers for the 800yds hillside and of course to replace our poor shot up GOPHER>

Everyone have a wonderful Christmas and New Years. will keep you all posted.
 
Appreciate the interest but nothing concrete yet. And nothing to be decided until Feb.

Got to see how work and family affect the event. Also, waiting for the competition dates to see if there are any conflicts.

The goal would be mid April again but let's see what the winter brings.

Hopefully, we will see you all this spring.

Jerry

PS as a hint - there will be nominal entrace fee this year per shooter. Part will cover expenses I incur and part will go to support CGN and other valued associations.

Event will be limited to 36 shooters. All will be asked to help with road duties and a few to help with range duties. See first posts for the usual rules and equipment needed.

Day one will be on the flat with ranges starting at 550yds going out to 1 mile up the hill.

Day two will be extreme range where you will start at around 1200yds and go out to 2600+ yds.

If I can get some help with welding and steel, we can make up some gongs. Looking at some gopher swingers for the 800yds hillside and of course to replace our poor shot up GOPHER>

Everyone have a wonderful Christmas and New Years. will keep you all posted.


Jerry, since you shoot out here a lot of the time already, how much of your time goes into planning this event?? I'm not totally sure what you're talking about here. It's not like you're welding up man sized knock down targets and building swingers like Mutt took the time to do with his Edmonton competition.

Also, greasing the wheel by adding that any extra money would go to CGN doesn't sit well with me either. I'll be the first to say that the fuel it takes for a lot of the guys to come from places like Fort McMurray, Edmonton area, Red Deer, Calgary and anywhere else that is a minimum of 8hrs away should be enough expense added to this event not to mention hotels and food for the weekend.

Just because ATRS has such a large client base from the Alberta, Saskatchewan, B.C. area, it almost makes more sense for us to hold a long range event in central Alberta as apose to Summerland. Granted, you have a beautiful spot, but I'll be honest when I say that it's not beyond me to locate and promote a similar event out here around the same time purely for the sake of not having everyone drive all that way and I think others would agree.
 
Jerry, since you shoot out here a lot of the time already, how much of your time goes into planning this event?? I'm not totally sure what you're talking about here. It's not like you're welding up man sized knock down targets and building swingers like Mutt took the time to do with his Edmonton competition.

Also, greasing the wheel by adding that any extra money would go to CGN doesn't sit well with me either. I'll be the first to say that the fuel it takes for a lot of the guys to come from places like Fort McMurray, Edmonton area, Red Deer, Calgary and anywhere else that is a minimum of 8hrs away should be enough expense added to this event not to mention hotels and food for the weekend.

Just because ATRS has such a large client base from the Alberta, Saskatchewan, B.C. area, it almost makes more sense for us to hold a long range event in central Alberta as apose to Summerland. Granted, you have a beautiful spot, but I'll be honest when I say that it's not beyond me to locate and promote a similar event out here around the same time purely for the sake of not having everyone drive all that way and I think others would agree.


What would be the point of having another shoot at the same time? Why not pick a different weekend and offer two longrange plinking sessions per year instead of just Jerry's?
 
What would be the point of having another shoot at the same time? Why not pick a different weekend and offer two longrange plinking sessions per year instead of just Jerry's?

Valid point, however, with this event growing rapidly, and most of the BIG boomers are coming from our neck of the woods. What would be the point in driving all the way out to Summerland in 6 - 10 vehicles that do an average of 10 mpg when we could meet somewhere more centralized like Drumheller or Wainwright or Red Deer? Jerry has made it clear in a lot of his posts that anyone with a stevens action 223 topped with a Centron scope, can reach a mile so there's no reason for those guys to have to put up with massive muzzle brake blasts from 50cals, 338LM AI, 338 Edges and all the rest if it's not necessary. Besides, I kind of like shooting at cars and steel if it's possible and if I can find a farmer that will allow us to drag something onto his property for us to totally destroy at insane distance, I'd rather.
 
Valid point, however, with this event growing rapidly, and most of the BIG boomers are coming from our neck of the woods. What would be the point in driving all the way out to Summerland in 6 - 10 vehicles that do an average of 10 mpg when we could meet somewhere more centralized like Drumheller or Wainwright or Red Deer? Jerry has made it clear in a lot of his posts that anyone with a stevens action 223 topped with a Centron scope, can reach a mile so there's no reason for those guys to have to put up with massive muzzle brake blasts from 50cals, 338LM AI, 338 Edges and all the rest if it's not necessary. Besides, I kind of like shooting at cars and steel if it's possible and if I can find a farmer that will allow us to drag something onto his property for us to totally destroy at insane distance, I'd rather.
That sounds like fun, but I still fail to see how Jerry's shoot in any way detracts from you doing whatever you want? I also don't see the reason for purposely trying to butt one shoot up against the other schedule-wise? Why not just put on another shoot, and the more the merrier? People can go to one or the other or both as they see fit.
 
For the guys that are in oil and gas and also ranchers and farmers, time off is far and few between. The guys from the Fort Mac area typically work 21days on with up to 10days off. Ranchers are typically busy first thing in spring for 60days but the farmers have most of April before they get to attack their fields. As for the expense imvolved in burning through 100rnds of 50BMG or 338LM, unless you've got a lot of coin, it only happens on a larger scale once a year. All of this coupled with the expense of driving and putting yourself up in a hotel for a couple days not to mention food, really racks up a nice bill.
Now, if let's say the drive was half as long which would help with making time to come out to the shoot, it wouldn't impact as many people nearly as much. Also, the idea of actually being able drive to set up steel targets would be a huge bonus as well. If guys from B.C. have more time off, driving out to Alberta might be something that's more easily considered.
 
Troy....I fully understand your point and I agree with you, however my being about 1 hour east of Vancouver and only having Sat & Sun for days off would totally rule out coming East of the Rockies for me.
Addditional days off are out of the question and as with the Fort Mac folks so would be the expenses incurred.
So ....whats the solution...separate shoots ??
This may sound silly to you especially considering the distance you have to travel to Summerland, but several of us in BC have had a difficult time trying to make the entire shoot there, myself included.
As I said before, I know what you mean...
 
I'm very interested in doing a Summerland shoot, but the distance to central Alberta or beyond simply rules it out entirely.

BTW, Jerry, I forgot to mention in my PM to you that I am a metal fabricator so I can likely scrounge up some scrap steel to use as gongs.
 
Troy....I fully understand your point and I agree with you, however my being about 1 hour east of Vancouver and only having Sat & Sun for days off would totally rule out coming East of the Rockies for me.
Addditional days off are out of the question and as with the Fort Mac folks so would be the expenses incurred.
So ....whats the solution...separate shoots ??
This may sound silly to you especially considering the distance you have to travel to Summerland, but several of us in BC have had a difficult time trying to make the entire shoot there, myself included.
As I said before, I know what you mean...

I appreciate you honesty because in essence, you're speaking for the guys I'm talking about. Jerry will continue to host his long range shoots and that's fine or else a couple guys from B.C. will get together and drive out to Alberta in an economical pavement vehicle. As appose to everyone from Alberta driving their 4x4 offroaders most of the way up a mountian to shoot though it's cool to drive up a goat path with a Ford with 2.5 feet of ground clearance like last year. Don't get me wrong here, I had a ton of fun last year but with the ever growing number of incredibly accurate rifle and big boomers we're delivering to clients in the eastern portion of B.C. into all of Alberta and Saskatchewan for the most part, I find it hard not to want to put on a shoot that more of us can enjoy.
 
glock, your mention of destoying a car in the middle of nowhere land appeals to me but how does a person handle the liability issues, as well as it not being a certified range? if these variables can be worked out then i may be able to help. i do own a little piece of land that we shoot at out to 1200 yards. but again the issue is -- non certified and of course the insurance.
 
glock, your mention of destoying a car in the middle of nowhere land appeals to me but how does a person handle the liability issues, as well as it not being a certified range? if these variables can be worked out then i may be able to help. i do own a little piece of land that we shoot at out to 1200 yards. but again the issue is -- non certified and of course the insurance.

On enough property and far enough away, destroying a car is safer then it sounds. As far as shooting on someone's property and the liability that goes along with that? Something similar to what a person signs at The Shooting Edge should be suffice. 1200yds won't be enough unless we can land rounds at the end of your nieghbor's section of land behind it. We've got time to find the perfect location and in January I will be emailing a ton of our customers from all over to see what we can come up with.

There are so many of our customers and friends that own all kinds of calibers big and small that take long range shooting seriously but just can't afford the time needed to drive the needed distance to attend some of these events so this is my new goal. I teach others all the time on the whole idea of being able to accurately calculate distance and bullet drop but to actually do some shooting with them will validate everything.
 
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