There goes inexpensive 7.62x39

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Canadian army seeks bullets for Soviet guns
http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/564263

Ammo likely for Afghan weapons, experts say

Jan 09, 2009 04:30 AM
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Allan Woods
Ottawa Bureau

OTTAWA–The military is looking for more than 2 million rounds of ammunition
for Soviet guns, a curious purchase experts say appears destined for the
weapons of Afghan soldiers under the charge of the Canadian army in
Kandahar.

The Department of National Defence wants to buy more than 1 million bullets
compatible with the Afghan National Army's main rifle, the AK-47, which was
first designed by Mikhail Kalashnikov in 1947 and adopted by the Soviet
military two years later.

The Canadian military is also seeking 600,000 rounds that are compatible
with a PK mounted machine gun, another weapon in the Afghan army's arsenal,
and 150,000 9mm bullets designed for Soviet-made Makarov and Stechkin
pistols, according to documents outlining the proposed purchase.

"We certainly don't use them," Senator Colin Kenny, chair of the Senate
committee on defence and national security, said of the ammunition sought.
"I could see us making them available to kandaks (Afghan battalions)."

The procurement comes as the Canadian mission in Kandahar is set to shift
from combat fighting to mentoring and training Afghan soldiers to take up
front line duties.

The Canadians now have four Afghan infantry battalions under the supervision
of military mentoring teams. Except for a donation of 2,500 surplus Canadian
rifles in December 2007, no one contacted by the Star yesterday had ever
heard of the Canadian military bankrolling war supplies for the Afghans.

"I don't think that's an unreasonable thing to have if you're training a
number of kandaks and you expect them to be equipped," Kenny said. "One
thing we know for sure is that the Afghans don't have any money to buy them
themselves."

The Department of National Defence did not respond to a request for
information on the proposed purchase yesterday, and the documents state only
that the ammunition is destined for two military depots in Saskatchewan and
Ontario.

Ottawa estimates the cost of the bullets at more than $1.7 million, and
retired military officials say it would not take long to fire off 2 million
rounds of ammunition with the high-tempo training regime in southern
Afghanistan.
 
With all of the countries using the 7.62x39, I don't think Canada's measly order will disrupt world supply. Most likely they would buy direct from a manufacturer and have shipped in containers.
 
Yes, they are going to pay $1.7 million for bullets that would retail for $340,000 in Canada .
I wonder who's axle is getting greased?
Or will John at Marstar be bidding on this one?
 
They are not going to buy 45 year old Czech surplus for this contract.

It will not affect the ammo supply in Canada, unless of course everyone keeps running around like chicken little.
 
They are not going to buy 45 year old Czech surplus for this contract.

It will not affect the ammo supply in Canada, unless of course everyone keeps running around like chicken little.

Of course you are right Stevo. Nothing but the newest and the best for our Afgan allies.
I wonder if I.V.I. will be bidding on the contract?
 
I don't see why they need to source it in Canada.

There must be tens of MILLIONS of rounds floating around in the middle east that should be easily available no?
 
I saw/heard of too many containers and ammo dumps in theater to really think this is for supplying the ANA/ANP/ANAP. (I could be wrong)

I would wager that this "small" amount of ammo is for ramping up training domestically on foreign weapons.
 
Always good to hear that millions and millions of our tax dollars are being pissed away into training/mentoring and supplying afghani 'soldiers'

How the #### did we become responsible for that country?

Makes me sick
 
They are not going to buy 45 year old Czech surplus for this contract.

It will not affect the ammo supply in Canada, unless of course everyone keeps running around like chicken little.

X2. Methinks the ammo shortage due to various middle eastern conflicts has been one of the largest excuses of the past few years of lack luster importing at the hands of a few Canadian importers. :rolleyes:

Next time I hear a dealer bring this crap up again I'm going to say fine then sell me your SKS's for $50 per rifle then. :D
 
Pie in the sky thinking, but if the contract is for factory new ammo, and SNC Lavalin does bid on it, someone should discretely ask for thier price for end or run production.
 
Always good to hear that millions and millions of our tax dollars are being pissed away into training/mentoring and supplying afghani 'soldiers'

How the f**k did we become responsible for that country?

Makes me sick

+1. Well said brother. What a great way to arm the next warlord who comes along and destroys this new army after we leave them to fend for themselves.
 
One more time for those who missed it the first time:
I saw/heard of too many containers and ammo dumps in theater to really think this is for supplying the ANA/ANP/ANAP. (I could be wrong)

I would wager that this "small" amount of ammo is for ramping up training domestically on foreign weapons.
 
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