NEW Springfield XD-M
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I heard that Kodiak Outpost was bringing them in.....
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=304743
Well, maybe not tomorrow, but I've got my wish list together.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=304743
Well, maybe not tomorrow, but I've got my wish list together.
Wow real nice ! Right now I am still not fixed about my first restricted. I just got the class today. But I have fired my friend XD40 Tact and I liked it very much ! Those XD interest me but the non-available gunsmith service in Canada turn me off of a little bit.
Get it and post back ! Be our ''cobail'' (sorry but I don't know the real name in english).
Mush
Get it and post back ! Be our ''cobail'' (sorry but I don't know the real name in english).
Mush
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I love it. Might be my next handgun
There was a write up (and cover photo) a few months back in one of the magazines. Seemed to get a good review there IIRC. But then again some magazines give good reviews to good advertisers.
I like the new looks. I think it needed it with all the other new guns like the S&W M&P, etc. I can't see buying the regular XD now and would hold off for the XDM if I was buying.
Fudd
I like the new looks. I think it needed it with all the other new guns like the S&W M&P, etc. I can't see buying the regular XD now and would hold off for the XDM if I was buying.
Fudd
It does. You can see the chamber indicator in the picture Nine has up. And if you watch the video at the-m-factor.com you can see the cocking indicator hole in the back. Check the Springfield web site too.
Fudd
Cosmetic changes (as you noted) as well as 19+1 round capacity (the old XD was 16+1) and a 4.5 inch barrel whereas the old version was available with either a 4" or a 5" barrel.
edit: Oh, and interchangeable backstraps too. (nice touch)
All in all it looks like a nice pistol. Too bad the extra capacity will go wasted up here...
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Someone explain the purpose of the striker indicator at the rear of the slide? Am I to believe that those who shoot this pistol are visually inspecting/verifying that the pistol is indeed chambered(loaded chamber indicator) and cocked by observing the extra bits on the pistol prior to shooting?
A loaded chamber indicator isn't a bad thing, but it isn't necessary either. The striker indicator is a useless piece of equipment. How or why would the user not be aware of the condition of their pistol is beyond me. Furthermore, when the pistol fails to fire your immediate action to TAP RACK solves both issues of an unloaded pistol(empty chamber) and whether or not the striker system is charged. Unless your pistol is broke, if the slide is forward and the trigger is forward, the pistol should fire. Why the addition of such useless features??
TDC
A loaded chamber indicator isn't a bad thing, but it isn't necessary either. The striker indicator is a useless piece of equipment. How or why would the user not be aware of the condition of their pistol is beyond me. Furthermore, when the pistol fails to fire your immediate action to TAP RACK solves both issues of an unloaded pistol(empty chamber) and whether or not the striker system is charged. Unless your pistol is broke, if the slide is forward and the trigger is forward, the pistol should fire. Why the addition of such useless features??
TDC
It might be a useless feature to us here in Canuckistan, but I could see how and why they imposed it on this gun and why I think allot of people like it.
Lets say that if your in the US, you keep your gun in the nightstand while sleeping. If for whatever reason you would need to reach for it, without having to rack the slide, you would know if they gun was loaded and if it were ready to fire. This is only useful information if you forgot the condition of the gun when you put it away. Or if you wake up in such a daze that you can't remember.
Again, if you are unclear as to the condition of your pistol, then TAP RACK to ensure it is loaded. Either way, anyone who doesn't know the condition of their firearm(s) needs some remedial training.
Nelly,
Press checking only leads to failure to fire and is a clear sign of someone who doesn't understand their firearms. The loaded chamber indicator aids in ensuring the pistol is loaded. However, inserting a full magazine, chambering a round then removing said magazine to verify that the capacity has indeed decreased by one round guarantees your pistol is loaded. Personally, I watch the round chamber, and can see the brass from a side view of the chamber. I have faith in those who have engineered my pistols that when a magazine is seated properly, it will feed a round as required.
TDC
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Well, I'm not sure about not understanding my firearms... That's a little low...
The press check is taught to many (including me), along with then ensuring the slide is tapped forward into battery prior to holstering. Nearly seven years of doing it that way, and no fail to fire yet.
Can you elaborate on your opinion, please? I'm a little confused, as removing a magazine to check for one less round on board seems like a more realistic way to get a poorly seated mag, to me(?).
Cheers,
Neal
The press check is taught to many (including me), along with then ensuring the slide is tapped forward into battery prior to holstering. Nearly seven years of doing it that way, and no fail to fire yet.
Can you elaborate on your opinion, please? I'm a little confused, as removing a magazine to check for one less round on board seems like a more realistic way to get a poorly seated mag, to me(?).
Cheers,
Neal
I used the chamber indicator and striker indicators to augment the standard practice of a tap rack of chamber check.
It's also very handy when there is a malfunction. Chamber indicator is up, striker is not visible, dud round. Striker not visible and chamber indicator down, something didn't feed right (not that its ever happened to me.
They don't replace any procedures, they augment them.
No offense intended but press checking tells me the operator is unclear as to whether or not they have seated a magazine and are unclear as to how reliable their pistol is with regards to feeding from the magazine. Lets not forget, if the pistol has a loaded chamber indicator, why not use it? Although it shouldn't be relied upon as it is of no value in the dark unless it is both tactile and visual. As you mentioned, press checking is the easiest way to induce a failure to fire due to the slide not being in battery. Why someone would teach or advocate f*cking with the slide after chambering a round makes no sense. Removing the magazine, inspecting the witness holes and reinserting the magazine does run the potential for an unseated magazine. However, if the round count is less one then the first time you inserted the magazine it in fact seated. Upon inspection and reinsertion one should tug on the magazine to ensure it is again seated properly. In the very unlikely event the magazine does not seat, it has zero effect on the round in the chamber. You may end up with a single shot pistol but atleast you got one. The same cannot be said for failures induced due to out of battery slides.
As far as augmenting immediate action drills, neither the striker indicator nor the loaded chamber indicator are of any value. An immediate action drill requires zero visual input, it is immediate. Failure to fire, TAP RACK. Both features are non visible in low light/no light conditions as well. Thus, training oneself to observe either one or both of these features becomes a solution for half of the day. The other half becomes a crap shoot.
TDC
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